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Kings Cap Issues, 2009-2010 [UPDATE]

Next year, the Kopitar and Greene contracts kick in; Williams' cap hit is a bit higher than O'Sullivan's this season; we will likely sign JJ for around $3MM $2.5MM $2.25MM (I'm going for O'Sullivan-ish numbers, with a little discount because Johnson hasn't quite achieved at even POS's level yet - as with POS, his contract will be about potential); Purcell will get a nominal (i.e. probably infinitesimal) raise. Letting Calder, Gauthier and Armstrong go, buying out Preissing, we will have a cap hit of $44.688MM $43.938MM, with four roster spots to fill (2 forwards and 2 defensemen).

Assume that one of the D is a prospect (one of Hickey or Voynov, for example, or maybe Drewiske). If it's Drewiske, he would be a cap hit of .525. If it's Hickey, assume a Doughty-ish contract with a similar bonus structure, cap hit plus bonus of around $2.5MM (my best uninformed guess - Hickey has signed a contract but figures haven't been quoted yet; if you wanted to assume the most Hickey's contract would be, not the least as I tried to do above, plug in the Doughty numbers), add $1.348 (per Rich Hammond). If it's Voynov, he gets probably somewhere around .700 (again, pulling a number more or less out of my hat -- if you want to assume maximum entry level, add $200K). I would say that DL has to leave room for Hickey to make the team in the fall. He can't go into camp with a cap figure such that if Hickey makes it he has to trade someone away to stay under the cap (the penalty for going over the cap due to bonuses is to have the overage tacked onto next season's cap total -- with the cap already thought to be coming down in 2010, DL can't afford to have the Kings cap come down even farther...of course, that's only an issue if he's thinking of jumping into the UFA market or otherwise approaching the cap ceiling this summer; if not, it's moot). So I think we have to plug in the Hickey number. For the other D, I would assume it's either a prospect or a cheap UFA (like SOD was this year). I'm going to guess it's a UFA at what SOD got last year: $1.25MM. So that's an additional $3.75MM $2.598MM. But could be done with Voynov and Drewiske (no UFA veteran, no Hickey) for 1.25ish (a savings of $1.36MM).

[UPDATE: DL, in 3/30/09's 'teleconference call' with ticket holders, mentioned Drewiske among the solid Kings d core, i.e. Doughty, Johnson, Quincey, Greene, Drewiske. This makes me think Drewiske's stock is way up and he might well take the place of a vet UFA d-man on next year's roster. I'm not going to change the numbers quoted below, but know that you can subtract 700K from everything that follows for the Drewiske/Hickey option.]

Total is now at $46.54MM. And we have two forwards to sign.

zeiler and gfMore than two if you're getting rid of Zeiler or Ivanans. Since both those guys are affordable, I'm going to assume that they either stick around or are replaced by like-priced players (e.g. Clune, Cliche).

clune baileyAs for the two spots to fill, I'm going to say one goes to a prospect. I pick Trevor Lewis. Could be Boyle. Doesn't matter. The cap hit would be .855 for Lewis. Will Boyle re-sign and get a raise? He's at .835 now. I don't see him getting more than $1MM. So let's be conservative, and call it .855 (the Lewis figure). [UPDATE: in the conference call with ticket holders, DL went out of his way to mention that his RFAs Johnson and Boyle will be matched (if someone throws an offer sheet at them); this suggests more faith in Boyle than many of us imagined; also, why didn't he mention Purcell, also an RFA? Well, maybe it was just a slip; he does talk fast. In any case, we now have to factor in that maybe Boyle will get a real raise in a new deal. Again, I will not adjust the numbers below, but you can all mentally tack on a couple hundred thousand dollars.]

Now we're up to $47.39MM. And we have one forward left.

If the last spot is a prospect, too, then the cap hit will be at almost exactly $48MM. [UPDATE: a little less if it's Drewiske and not a UFA D-man; but a little more if Boyle gets more of a raise than we previously thought; so $48MM is still a good, safe bet; if you want a range, call it $47.3-48.5MM.]

But if it's a UFA? Hossa? How much? $8MM? Okay, now we're $55.39MM, a couple of bucks from the cap ceiling. Maybe you get Hossa for a little less than $8MM (doubt it though), or maybe we go with a cheaper defense (no Hickey, no UFA d, etc.). Or maybe we shed some salary somewhere else. But where? Who are you going to deal? Handzus, Frolov, for picks? For a cheaper forward and a prospect? That could happen, I guess. Maybe the cap goes up a few dollars and that gives DL more room (temporarily, because everyone seems to think the cap is coming down the following year).

Or maybe it's Gaborik (not my choice) and it's less than $8MM. But you have to be careful, because if the point is to get a top-line sniper/finisher, you don't want to buy damaged goods, or the budget version of what you really want. Because the budget version is likely to be similar to what we have already, and that defeats the purpose of spending our way up to the cap ceiling in the first place. It's only worth it if you get yourself a 40-50 goal scoring machine.

Plan B could be some kind of Kovalchuk for Frolov (plus, for example, Handzus, Johnson, Hickey and a 1st) swap. Two guys in the last year of their contracts, etc.. Would that be a good trade? Well, it's obviously an upgrade on sniper-power. But trading away the future...I wouldn't do it. And Atlanta ain't going to do it for Frolov and Johnson by themselves, or whatever spare parts Kings fans might fantasize about (e.g. the Calder, Preissing, Armstrong, Ersberg, Gauthier, Darryl Evans and a 1st for Kovalchuk rumors of the past season). So I would pass on that one. Probably, I would.

But the overriding point -- the thing I keep relearning every time I crunch the numbers (to the best of my limited ability as a fan) -- is that "tons of cap space" can quickly become "over the cap" with just one signing. Everyone who is saying let's sign Bouwmeester or whatever, keep that in mind. Even the Kings, with a relatively low cap figure compared to everyone else, can't afford more than one big guy. So it stands to reason we ought to think really hard about who that one guy is. There is no, "if we had Bouwmeester and Kovalchuk and Luongo we would be contenders." No team can afford three pieces like that. Those days are over.

But, more importantly, why is Kovalchuk in a kilt?

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quisp…

i think the problem between jj and the kings will be him asking for more than the 2.25 you suggest…i agree…that’s a fair amount for him…
i think when rich had his q&a with d.l. a few months back, d.l. eluded to that both parties wanted to make a deal but were far apart on the terms…that’s going to be a key for this deal to get done…more than ever before, a few hundred thousand here or there will be a major factor in determining who stays and who goes…

the boyle assessment and d.l.‘s comments are very interesting…i don’t really understand why boyle would be protected like that…however, it would be fitting for boyle to be laden as a late bloomer and go and perform like he’s suppose to for another team…i can’t imagine another team going penner-like on boyle and make a substantial play for him…on the other hand, the practice of screwing over another team like the kings could be in the cards for other competitors…since we have much more room than others this upcoming season, it might be a ploy to force the kings hand and strategy…but of course, that team involved in such tactics would come under fire by other gm’s and probably hurt themselves with future endeavors/trades…

because we are heading into an era of such cap scrutiny and tight margins, the aforementioned…what i like to call “the lowe syndrome”…could be more of a common scenario…i would really hate the emergence of the offer sheet…i think that’s a horrible way of doing business, especially if a gm is solely relying on that type of strategy to pull someone away from a “good faith” negotiation…

is boyle a tomas vanek? dustin penner? no way…not at this point

that kovy picture is a bit early 80’s soft porn for me…what the hell was that and where did you find that…? he’s got a wife and kids….i wonder if that was some type of russian dating service photo exchange….as long as he continues to look good on the ice, i guess he can pose in any way he wants…

you raise a good question about purcell’s future…and i would agree with you that it might have been an oversight on d.l.‘s part….i cannot imagine d.l. having boyle in a higher “box” (as d.l. likes to call them) than teddy…if he does….wow…i would be a bit disappointed and shocked….i’m guessing that he just didn’t name him by mistake…

and here’s another take on “as the frolov turns”…

d.l. has a lot of pressure on him next season for the kings to succeed…to me, it would make a lot more sense to keep frolov AND land a top-line winger/player…there’s going to be some turnover, of course, but if the kings and d.l. are serious about keeping farm-raised talent aboard, d.l. keeps frolov and makes it happen financially…with that being said, as much as i like handzus and what he’s done and brought to the team, especially this season, he would be my pick to move in lieu of salary space to land the desired top flight player…

by 1variable on Mar 31, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the Purcell thing was totally an oversight. Teddy has done great, especially lately, and I really think it was his emergence that sealed the deal for O’Sullivan. The Kovalchuk picture, by the way, was some kind of fund-raiser thing, I think. Don’t know the details. Re Johnson: it will be interesting to see how it plays out. After having missed so much time, JJ has to know that missing camp would be a very bad thing to do, especially with, oh, Hickey, Teubert, Drewiske, Campbell, Kidd, Martinez, Voynov and Harrold all champing at the bit to take his spot. I love JJ personally, but I think the fact that the Kings did so well defensively without him for several months this year is a huge negotiating position for DL.

by qwisp on Mar 31, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That “cannot” really be Kovo can it?

More proof that Frolov can score, there, eh?

I don’t see Boyle too willing to continue in our system the way he’s been treated.
Although it may be difficult to find someone to bid for him, is the compensation (1st rounders) for a Manchester player the same as if he were playing in the NHL?
Is Boyle still, in effect, an non-NHL player having played so little?

by worldhockeydaily on Apr 4, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is Kovalchuk, indeed. Apparently it was some kind of charity function, i.e. the photo was done for charity. But I would have to look into it to get the details. Boyle — who knows. I think he’ll get another year to prove himself, especially after last night.

by qwisp on Apr 5, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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