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I was quite surprised with the Kukla’s korner article you linked to. When you compare the career stats of both of those players, they both seem quite capable of making a contribution to playoff contendingt teams coming down the strech. But it really should be taken into consideration that Player B racked up the most of his stats and favorable +/- status while playing for the Red Wing powerhouse teams of 1994-2001, whereas Player A hd to toil on some pretty crappy teams in SJ and CLB when they had just been brought in with NHL expansion.

I thik I would still rather have A over B if the price is right…

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 15, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

Re: Power Rankings

When I read commenters over at Hammond’s blog (haven’t encountered any here so far) who lament that the Kings don’t get any respect from the national sporting press, it reminds me of myself 15-20 years ago. But back then, I was living away from LA and its local media and more importantly, online communities like this one didn’t really exist.

Nowadays, I care more about what perceptive people who actually follow the Kings closely have to say more than I do about what anyone on ESPN has to say. And when the Kings win the Stanley Cup, it will be all the validation I will ever need as a Kings fan, no matter what anyone else says.

by DougX on Feb 16, 2010 12:26 AM PST reply actions  

When I read commenters over at Hammond’s blog (haven’t encountered any here so far)

Sometimes I will post over there using the handle “DBB.” But most of those comments are so nonsensecal, that I will confine my LA Kings rants to here at SB Nation

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 16, 2010 7:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say "most"

but there is a theory over there that several citizens of the troll population are really just one troll with many names.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Feb 16, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah – “most” was probably too inclusive. It’s certainly plausible that there is just 1 or 2 trolls using a plethera of different aliases. I do enjoy the interaction among the comments here at SB Nation more than that of Hammond’s blog.

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 16, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

One huge difference

is that Rich isn’t usually a participant in the comments, although he will make the rare appearance; on SBN, Rudy, Sleek, etc., are active and frequent (not only participants but) leaders of the discussion. So there really is a dialogue that extends from the original post. At Rich’s site, the comments section is more like the teacher has left the room and everyone goes nuts, especially the delinquents.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Feb 16, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

And I agree with DBB...

… in that the signal to noise ratio in the comments here is higher than on LA Kings Insider. Not that there aren’t smart commenters there. But if there is sock puppetry going on there, Rich really needs to draw a line there and not tolerate it. I don’t think that’s the kind of community he wanted to create.

by DougX on Feb 16, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops

Re-reading it, I can see that my post was poorly phrased in that I didn’t meant that there isn’t much overlap between commenters here and those on LA Kings Insider. I comment there, and I know that Quisp does.

What I meant is that I don’t see anyone here complaining about how the Kings don’t get enough respect from ESPN, or other press organs that claim to have national or NHL-wide scope. Whereas I’ve seen some of Hammond’s commenters do just that.

And that’s something that I don’t feel any need to do anymore, in part because I’m back living within the LA media cocoon, but mostly because of online communities like this one. I’m not desperate for validation from the national sporting press when I can come here for intelligent and informed conversation about the Kings. And when the Kings win the Stanley Cup, it will be much more important to me to come here and find out what other people are saying than to watch ESPN to hear what their talking heads have to say.

by DougX on Feb 16, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it's also true that his population of commenters is exponentially bigger than ours

so there’s bound to be a few loose nuts. I don’t know how you control sock-puppetry. I guess by filtering out same IP, different “handle”? Yeah, that would be easy to do, now that I think about it.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Feb 16, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, you check the IP

I’ve been part of a couple of Internet forums where sock puppetry has been an issue, and that is how it’s dealt with.

by DougX on Feb 17, 2010 2:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Hear, hear. It ought to be done.

I also wish there could be layers of comments in the thread.

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Feb 18, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

At Rich’s site, the comments section is more like the teacher has left the room and everyone goes nuts, especially the delinquents.

That is such a great analogy. So True.

2009-10 Kings Hockey: Delivering Milk Steaks from the Meat Train at an arena near you!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 16, 2010 9:13 AM PST reply actions  

And then the teacher comes back

and has to knock a few heads together.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Feb 16, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Having taught myself…THIS. :)

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Feb 16, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm suprised to see the Kings at #2 in the THN power rankings...

I’m shocked to notice that they were number two last week as well… What the hell are they thinking jinxing us like that??

by Jietoh on Feb 16, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

Not surprised at all

Think about what the Kings have done to the elite teams in the East in the last two months – Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Boston, New Jersey, Washington – to say nothing of Detroit. They have had an extraordinary season. I think that was enough to get some national attention. And some deserved praise from Don Cherry as well.

"Not in your wildest alcoholic nightmare would you ever imagine such events unfolding!" Bill King

by Buck Turgidson on Feb 16, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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