Poll: Worst Trade 2000-2010
by Quisp on Feb 16, 2010 5:02 PM PST
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Fourth in the series. The two top vote-getters of each of the four polls will face each other in the semi-final. The top two from the semis will meet in the finals. (If you haven't taken the first three polls, they're in the History section, to your left -- on the home page, under "Sections".) I think I will also do a fifth poll before the semis that includes all the trades that sucked that I forgot to put in the first four polls. So if I've forgotten any trades, tell me in the comments and they'll go in the catch-all. Because I want to leave no stone unturned.
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Milbury
Still takes the cake for this decade too. Its obviously down to two trades.
Luongo and Jokinen for Parrish and Kvasha
I will always remember where I was when I heard Luongo was traded. I was a huge fan of his and even made a few trips out to the Colosseum by myself (I had just started to drive and they were my first long distance trips) to see him play. I knew he was going to be good and this was an absolute heart breaker. This also ties in with my hatred of DiPietro, because if Dip wasn’t from Boston or Boston U we never would have drafted him and would have likely kept Luongo. Milbury’s fetish for Boston is insane.
Muckalt, Chara, 1st Rounder (Spezza) For Yashin
God, there was a million reasons not to trade for Yashin. His poor preformance in the playoffs (which he continued on the Island) his bad sportsmanship, weak teamwork, this list can go on and on. Supposedly when Wang first bought the team a group of Islander fans met with him and recommended two things, Firing Milbury and not trading for Yashin. Thankfully he ignored that advice. This trade makes me wish for ten years of my life as an Islander fan back. I hate you Milbury, I truly do.
"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.
Ditto
The 2 Milbury trades were at the top of my list when Quisp first posted about worst deals. Ugh. I truly pity Islanders fans of the last 10+ years. It’s good for all of hockey that this guy is no longer calling the shots anywhere.
I believe the other Shark to go to Boston was Wayne Primeau. In hindsight, the Thornton trade didn’t come off so bad for the Bruins. It was a salary dump, more than anything else, and with JT off the books, they were able to sign Chara + Savard. They had a good couple seasons to show for it afterwards, and there’s still some potential there. And really, how much better are the Sharks now than before that trade? I’d call it win-win.
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In looking at these lists of trades...
… I can see at least some in each list where a team clearly lost in the final analysis, and yet it’s understandable how it seemed like a good idea at the time. But the Yashin trade was definitely one that looked pretty dubious even at the time.
Yashin was already a disappointment. I can see trading for him, but surely Milbury could have gotten a better deal than giving up Chara and a 1st rounder.
Agree with the two earlier comments that Milbury’s actions in Long Island just ruined the Islanders franchise for many years to come. I also think Wayne Primeau is the missing piece to the Thornton trade in the poll.
Some trades that should also be considered: Phaneuf going to Toronto for a bunch of spare parts, Toronto sending two 1st round picks and a 2nd for Phil Kessel, and Pronger going to the Oilers for only Eric Brewer, Jeff Woywitka and Doug Lynch.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 17, 2010 8:19 AM PST reply actions
i will put all of those in the catch-all poll before the semis or the quarters or whatever it's going to be
Wait till this year.
It’s funny how most fans will agree that the Phil Kessel trade was bad even before the draft has happened or even the draft order being finalized. Burke has guts, but so does Mike Milbury.
Speaking of whom, Milbury has to be considered one of the top 3 knucklehead GMs in the history of sports.
I think Burkie’s trade for Jiggy and Phaneuf were brilliant, but I believe that he severely overpaid for Kessel. And I definitely agree that Burke’s got some of the biggest cojones in the game…
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 17, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
The milbury trades were bad, but the JFJ trades were just dumb. What the Leafs traded away: The top goaltending prospect and a punch of picks for a Sieve, a bigger sieve and Daniel Alfredsson’s bane. At least Milbury managed to get Yashin who was pretty bad at the time, but not nearly as bad as Raycroft and Toskala, the two worst goaltenders of that decade single handedly
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 17, 2010 9:20 AM PST reply actions
the two worst goaltenders of that decade single handedly
Sorry. The correct answer is Dan Cloutier!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 17, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
How did I forget Cloutier? Though both of them are quite bad
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Feb 17, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
I always hate to spoil the fun
But I think it’s also worth pointing out that with some of these more recent trades, it’s actually impossible to judge them definitively because we just don’t know how they’ll work out in the long run. Until we do, we’re just making educated guesses about whether or not it was a lopsided trade.
I’ll concede that we can make some conclusions about the Heatley trade, which happened less than a full season ago. But Kovalchuk to New Jersey? Phaneuf and Kessel to Toronto? We don’t actually know how well Phaneuf will work out there. Nor do we know for sure whether or not he was worth a 1st and a 2nd. I agree that it looks right now like Burke overpaid, especially since he’s trying to rebuild the Leafs. But I will be a lot more comfortable making that conclusion in 5-10 years than I am right now.
Oops, should have edited
Of course, I meant that we don’t know whether Kessel was worth a 1st and a 2nd yet….
Of course you're right, 100%
This whole exercise started because of a Thrashers blog post that declared the Kovalchuk trade the worst trade ever. In putting together the “contestants” for each poll, I tried to cast a wide enough net to ensnare everyone’s favorite trade to hate. Disagreeing about which trades sucked is what makes the poll fun (if it’s fun). Clearly, in ten years we’ll think differently when we look back on 2010, which late round picks became superstars, which #1 picks went bust, which trades turned contenders into dynasties, which were Milburied.
Wait till this year.
I think trading in Marc Crawford to get Terry Murray has to be one of the biggest steals of the decade!
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by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 17, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions
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