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Oscar Moller and other little people (and not one "size matters" joke)

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Every time I say I think Oscar Moller will have a long, successful career, probably scoring 30 goals a few times, probably wearing an A for someone (hopefully the Kings), someone always reminds me that he's too small and scrawny and can't take the punishment. I think these unnamed (possibly made-up) naysayers are wrong. Moller knows how to receive a check, knows how to avoid a check, and knows how to deliver one, too (I won't rehash my Moller pitch here). But I have to admit, after so many objections, I started second-guessing myself. And I think this was compounded by the fact that when Oscar was drafted, I'm almost positive he was listed as 6', only to be shrunk to 5'11" last year, and now 5'10". (This same thing happened to Justin Williams, who was 6'1" when he was traded here, and now is somewhere around 5'11", and Patrick O'Sullivan, who lost an inch during his tenure). So, I went to the NHL.com site, which has the brilliant feature of letting you (me) sort the entire league by height. 

As long as he's done shrinking, I'll stick with my prediction. Meanwhile, look at these guys:

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Darcy Tucker

#16 / Right Wing / Colorado Avalanche

5-10

178

Mar 15, 1975



Brian Gionta

#21 / Right Wing / Montreal Canadiens

5-7

173

Jan 18, 1979



Scott Nichol

#21 / Center / San Jose Sharks

5-9

178

Dec 31, 1974



Martin St. Louis

#26 / Right Wing / Tampa Bay Lightning

5-9

177

Jun 18, 1975



Scott Walker

#24 / Right Wing / Washington Capitals

5-10

196

Jul 19, 1973



Derek Roy

#9 / Center / Buffalo Sabres

5-9

188

May 04, 1983



Jordin Tootoo

#22 / Right Wing / Nashville Predators

5-9

200

Feb 02, 1983



Mike Cammalleri

#13 / Left Wing / Montreal Canadiens

5-9

182

Jun 08, 1982



Oscar Moller

#9 / Center / Los Angeles Kings

5-10

186

Jan 22, 1989



Patrick Kane

#88 / Right Wing / Chicago Blackhawks

5-10

178

Nov 19, 1988



Steve Sullivan

#26 / Left Wing / Nashville Predators

5-9

173

Jul 06, 1974



Sergei Samsonov

#14 / Left Wing / Carolina Hurricanes

5-8

188

Oct 27, 1978



Francis Bouillon

#51 / Defenseman / Nashville Predators

5-8

196

Oct 17, 1975



Cory Murphy

#28 / Defenseman / New Jersey Devils

5-9

175

Feb 13, 1978



Ryan Shannon

#26 / Right Wing / Ottawa Senators

5-9

173

Mar 02, 1983



Andrew Ebbett

#16 / Center / Minnesota Wild

5-9

174

Jan 02, 1983



Dan Sexton

#42 / Right Wing / Anaheim Ducks

5-10

170

Apr 29, 1987



Todd Marchant

#22 / Center / Anaheim Ducks

5-10

182

Aug 12, 1973



Andrei Loktionov

#48 / Center / Los Angeles Kings

5-10

179

May 30, 1990



Justin Azevedo

#62 / Center / Los Angeles Kings

5-7

183

Apr 01, 1988



Ray Whitney

#13 / Left Wing / Carolina Hurricanes

5-10

180

May 08, 1972



Daymond Langkow

#22 / Center / Calgary Flames

5-10

183

Sep 27, 1976



Andrew Cogliano

#13 / Center / Edmonton Oilers

5-10

184

Jun 14, 1987



Jason Blake

#33 / Left Wing / Anaheim Ducks

5-10

186

Sep 02, 1973



Paul Kariya

#9 / Left Wing / St. Louis Blues

5-10

180

Oct 16, 1974



Lubomir Visnovsky

#17 / Defenseman / Anaheim Ducks

5-10

188

Aug 11, 1976



Chris Drury

#23 / Center / New York Rangers

5-10

190

Aug 20, 1976



Vyacheslav Kozlov

#13 / Left Wing / Atlanta Thrashers

5-10

190

May 03, 1972



Brian Rafalski

#28 / Defenseman / Detroit Red Wings

5-10

194

Sep 28, 1973



Mark Recchi

#28 / Right Wing / Boston Bruins

5-10

195

Feb 01, 1968



Sean Avery

#16 / Left Wing / New York Rangers

5-10

195

Apr 10, 1980



Rich Clune

#56 / Left Wing / Los Angeles Kings

5-10

198

Apr 25, 1987



Kris Versteeg

#32 / Right Wing / Chicago Blackhawks

5-10

182

May 13, 1986

 

 

 


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Awful lot of guys there that faded badly with age and / or dealt with injury issues.

It’s not to say Moller can’t be a good player, from what I’ve seen of him he’ll be a fine player, but it’s harder to play 82 games in the NHL if you’re 5’10" than 6’3".

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by Chemmy on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

THAT'S a great point

And it’s a different issue than the one that usually comes up re Moller. But, yes, absolutely, the crap shoot which decides whether a player can stay healthy into his thirties is even worse for smaller players, or has been historically. It will be interesting to see if the “new NHL”, which has made it possible for smaller players to zip in and out of people un-clutched-and-grabbed, will make it possible for those same players to thrive longer.

I frankly have no idea who will have an Arnott-like old age and who will be Lindros, Allison, Deadmarsh, etc.. I choose not to think about it for now, and just focus on enjoying the kids while they’re still years before their peak, rather than declining from it.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Mar 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Say....

Notice that the three players that you cite as badly damaged by injury were large (or at least large-ish) guys? If I’m thinking of guys as possible comparables for Moller in terms of stature, I wouldn’t think of Eric Lindros, Jason Allison and Adam Deadmarsh. Just sayin.’ :-)

The point that I would make is that when I look at that list in your post, I actually see a lot of guys in who are still in the NHL in their mid-30s, which means that they still have value to someone. Otherwise, it would be very easy to replace them with someone younger and cheaper. I know that Martin St. Louis isn’t the player that he used to be. But man, wasn’t he hot stuff when he was at his best! So I guess I look at your list as being half-full rather than half-empty.

The broken collarbone that Moller suffered at the WJC was very unfortunate in that he never had a chance to finish his rookie year as he started it, and I think that influences how a lot of people perceive him now.

by DougX on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you sure it was a broken collarbone? I thought it was a strained shoulder/neck? I don’t think anything broke….

by Connie Kim on Mar 17, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I must have glossed over that memo.

by Connie Kim on Mar 17, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what was thought at first

But eventually it was re-diagnosed. I also recall that there was some blame cast at the Swedish team medical staff. But reading between the lines, I got the feeling that Oscar pulled the ol’ “It’s just a flesh wound” routine because he didn’t want to sit out the rest of the tournament. But eventually, there just wasn’t any denying that it was a serious, painful injury.

by DougX on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

citing Lindros et al was intentional

but i do believe it’s hard to know who will thrive into their retirement years. I find the list very comforting.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Mar 17, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Leafs fan I skip the possible upside and latch on to the horrible inevitable decline since that’s all I’m going to see.

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by Chemmy on Mar 17, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, in that sense, and except for the cups and the level of interest in hockey

our two towns are more alike than different. seriously.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Mar 17, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

:-D

I hear ya. I guess my way of dealing with being a Kings fan for 35 years is a certain level of denial, trying to latch onto whatever is left in the glass, even if it’s not even half-full. :-)

Kind of like waking up with a hangover every morning and telling yourself, “Well, at least I’m not dead.”

by DougX on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He just needs to tap into his inner Recchi.

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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice breakdown

but honestly, where’d you find that pic of Moller?

by AKAY47 on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

His eyes are almost as blue as your kool-aid.

by Connie Kim on Mar 17, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope it was from some Swedish version of Facebook.

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by Niesy on Mar 18, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

ABBA-space?

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

“ABBA-space. What are you spacing?”

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by Niesy on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oscar reminds me of Whack-A-Mole, but in a good way. Whenever he gets slammed he just pops right back up.

I also liked how you slipped Loktionov in there. Someone was talking about how “frail” he is on the Insider but apparently he’s just the same as Patrick Kane. Nice work.

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by Niesy on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Loktionov is not frail

but I do worry that he has a so-called loose shoulder. I guess I shouldn’t give it a second thought, because the Kings would certainly have the best orthopedic surgeons in the world to do the shoulder ligament tightening surgery, which would make his shoulder literally better than it was naturally. but still, surgery is unpredictable. i knock on the wood.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Mar 18, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear Oscar Moller has a loose shoulder and also that he’s really small (like 5’6"), what do you think Quisp?

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by RudyKelly on Mar 18, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

but still, surgery is unpredictable. i knock on the wood.

Hey, wait. You promised me a bionic shoulder! I went around thinking he was half-robot now!

Okay, I’ll knock on some wood too. After all, how many little Cylons are the protégé of Igor Larionov?

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by Niesy on Mar 18, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

one

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

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