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It was clear last several months ago that the Blackhawks couldn't care less about what was going to happen the summer of 2010. My last thoughts went something like this:

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They have a cap hit of $60.613MM, which is $3.8MM over this year's cap ceiling [...] But at least they have a full roster signed. Nine forwards, five defensemen and one goalie. That's a full team, right? [...] Let's assume they trade for the five cheapest guys in existence, locking in the lowest cap hits currently available. That's 5x $487K added to the cap hit, which brings the total to $63.048MM, which is $6.25MM over this year's cap.

I guess if I were them, I would send Sopel to the AHL. That saves $2.33MM, but you have to fill his roster spot now, so add another $487K. So, $4.405MM to go.

Who's next? I guess I would deal Kopecky, that saves another $700K (net), with, $3.7MM to go.

No one is ever going to take on that Campbell contract. I guess one plan would be to hope you win the cup and then trade Huet at peak value.

[ed. note: oops.]

That could happen, and then you'd be done. Failing that (and I think trading Huet is extremely unlikely), Chicago is going to have to lose two of Bolland, Versteeg, Byfuglien or Seabrook, or else lose just one of them and then waive Campbell and hope someone picks him up on re-entry at half-price.

So, to sum up, I would probably demote Sopel, trade Kopecky and two of Bolland, Baker, Versteeg, Byfuglien or Seabrook. And replace them with NINE MINIMUM WAGE EMPLOYEES.

Yeah, right. Good management, Chicago. You're completely screwed. And after you lose in the Cup finals to Pittsburgh, and HOSSA GOES INTO THE LOONEY BIN, what then? (Wait. Is that the plan? Hossa goes away on "medical leave" and you get his cap hit off the books? That's possibly genius. Okay, I take it all back. I hope that happens.)

In the last six months, the numbers have changed a bit. Hey, maybe things are looking better for the Hawks. With that thought in mind, I went to cap-geek to crunch numbers. I assumed that the Hawks win the cup and some players are entitled to a raise. Primarily, Antti Niemi. I then filled out the roster with minimum wage employees. Here's what I came up with:

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Well, that's not so good. Given the raises they're going to have to give to Andrew Ladd, Ben Eager and Neimi, the Blackhawks find themselves $13.4MM over the cap.

That's a lot, isn't it?

They simply have to resolve the Cristobal Huet situation. The only way out I see (other than dumping him in the minors), is a buy-out. Buying out Huet reduces his cap hit to $1.875MM for four years. That's a savings of $3.75MM (cap hit).

Okay, $10MM to go. Who's next?

Brian Campbell. Buy-out reduces cap hit to $2.381MM. Savings is $4.762MM.

(However, please note that the Campbell buy-out cap hit will be on the books until, wait for it...

...7/1/2022!

That probably seems farther away than it is.

But now we're within $5.3MM of the cap ceiling.

Okay, $4.8MM to go. Buying-out Brent Sopel would save a million, as would waiving him and hoping someone picks him up on re-entry. Okay, buy him out. That's $1.34MM of cap savings, leaving us with $4MM to go.

But remember we have to replace the bodies we get rid of, and we've dumped three bodies so far. Two more, at $3MM each would clear $6MM of cap space, and we would be $2MM under. But we'd have five players to sign. Okay, we'll worry about that in a minute. Right now, we have to figure out:

Which two of Patrick Sharp, Dave Bolland, Kris Versteeg, Andrew Ladd, Dustin Byfuglien or Brent Seabrook are we going to trade away for picks and prospects (or minimum wagers to fill the empty spots)? Doesn't matter to me, so I'll randomly select Ladd and Bolland.

Okay, I'll play devil's advocate and just trade Bolland. Keep Ladd. But we'll really have to squeeze in other places...

Last but not least, forget Nick Boynton and instead throw a prospect in there. Now, having done those several moves, let's see what we've got. Back to cap-geek:

[Okay, running the capgeek figures, filling in the roster with the cheapest prospect defensemen available, it turns out we're still $1.3MM over -- using this year's cap ceiling. Another move needs to be made. Okay, I sent Kyle Beach away and promoted a cheap forward prospect. Still over. Okay, I got rid of the prospect d and put even cheaper UFA d in their place. And I'm still half a million over! Okay, reduce to six d. THAT'S IT! Got it.

So, without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, your 2010-2011 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks!

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Ignore the part where it says "no buy-outs," as I figured them into the other sections. Also the roster size includes the three buyouts, so in fact it's 21, not 24. Thirteen forwards, six defensemen and two goalies.

Gone are Bolland, Boynton, Huet, Campbell, Sopel, John Madden, Adam Burish and that's all, just those seven. Oh, and there's no room to promote the blue-chip prospects (i.e. Kyle Beach). You've used up every last penny of your bonus cushion, so you'd better pray those bonuses don't have to be paid (or you get penalized by having the overage subtracted from the following year's cap ceiling). And you only have six defensemen, so I hope no-one gets injured. Although, on the bright-side:

$7,206 in cap space!

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Why couldn't you trade Campbell?

He’d fetch at least a couple of draft picks plus the cap relief. Does he have a NTC?

by 88fingerslukee on May 17, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

No (not that I know of anyway) but

he has FOUR more years left on his $7.14MM cap hit. Who is going to take that on? Nobody, without being paid handsomely (it’s the cap space that Chicago would in effect be trading for). You’d have to find a team that (1) has tons of cap space and (2) needs an offensive defenseman and (3) wants to pay Campbell like he’s their franchise player. (he would, for example, be the highest paid player on the Kings).

It would be like the Smyth trade. i.e. Smyth for basically a waiver pick-up and an albatross. And even then I don’t know who you’d get to do this.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 17, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Washington and Chicago are the most fertile sources...

I would be glad to have either of Byfuglien, Sharp or Versteeg.

Someone please tell me why we have to pass up the opportunity for solid NHL top 9 guys in order to give unproven prospects major minutes while our core gets older and more expensive, so that when those prospects finally become “ripe” the core has become too expensive.

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by Player-X on May 17, 2010 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think they'll be trading the three you mentioned, but yes, that would be nice

To answer your question though:

While I wouldn’t boil it down exactly in those words, the reason there always needs to be prospects coming up is you can’t have a bunch of guys all making $3-7MM/year. If the Kings take on too many contracts this summer, they simply won’t be able to afford to sign all of Doughty, Johnson, Moller, Simmonds and Bernier next summer (2011). You certainly could try to nab one of Chicago’s $3MM contracts for a pick and a prospect, but that’s one of two such signings you’d be able to do, before you’re out of room — not for this year, but for next year. It’s a balance. That is exactly why Chicago is in the mess they’re in. You simply can’t sustain 13 of 20 guys making more than $3MM and six of those making more than $5MM. Underline: they have done it the dumb way. The “I’m going for it and I’ll think about tomorrow, tomorrow” plan.

Lombardi’s plan, I imagine (since it’s the only rational plan that adds up), is to have 1-3 prospects break in each year, giving the roster a steady stream of ELCs on the active roster (somewhere around 1/3 of the team), followed by a handful of guys on smallish second contracts (e.g. Johnson, Quick, Drewiske, Harrold), a couple of old mentors getting small money (O’Donnell, Modin), all of which balances out the 8-10 big contracts, which are laddered (like T-Bills set up to come due a little every year) so that each year a couple of them expire (this year, Frolov; next year, Handzus and Williams; 2012, Stoll and Smyth, etc.), allowing both for cap relief and for the opportunity to trade the player the year before the contract expires, thus repopulating the prospect pool.

The problem of the core becoming too expensive is exactly why, going back three or four years now, Lombardi has been very careful with O’Sullivan’s contract, Johnson’s, why he locked Brown in long term at a bargain rate, etc., not to mention why he was willing to deal Cammalleri rather than give him the $6MM he wanted. Because it’s not just that $6MM; it’s the little extra that everyone else gets because their deals get compared to Cammy’s deal. It quickly becomes $10MM in space it’s cost you. Or you have to let others walk. You think Kopitar settles for a $6.8MM cap hit if Cammalleri is getting $6MM?

It’s a very, very precarious tight-wire act, with the ramifications of each contract mapped out several years in advance.

It’s also why Lombardi is able to be patient with, for example, Hickey and Voynov, Teubert and Campbell, Loktionov and Moller. He knows that if Hickey and Voynov were suddenly NHL ready he wouldn’t have room for Hickey, Voynov, Doughty and Johnson (all speedy powerplay-type guys), and he wouldn’t want them coming ripe at the same time, because he wants to have Hickey waiting in the wings when, say, Voynov is getting ready for his RFA deal, and he wants to have Campbell or Teubert ready when Muzzin’s contract is about to get pricey. Same with Moller and Loktionov. Same with Zatkoff and Jones. That’s what the depth is for. Not only to give you options, but as a downward influence on the soon-to-be-big contracts. If, for example, Moller thinks Loktionov is right behind him and is cheaper for a year or two, maybe he takes a little less than he would if he felt more secure. Not that this is something the players need to think about. It’s for the GM and the agent. It’s an extended game of chicken, covering several seasons.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 17, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Now this is a discussion! Love it...

I am working on a full response, but I need to know something before I can finish it.
Schenn, in the capgeek, shows a cap hit of 3.140 million, with a bonus of 2.115. As you told me, bonus goes to bonus cushion, above salary cap, so does that mean the 3.140 is inclusive of the 2.115 bonus? Is the actual cap hit the difference of 1.025?

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by Player-X on May 18, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

cap hit is the total of the base salary (avg over term) plus potential bonuses.

I believe the maximum base salary for 2010 (the year he signed) was $900K (though I would have to check). The rest — $3.14MM minus $900K — is the potential bonus.

Schenn’s cap hit is $3.14MM. Also known as pi million dollars.
His base salary is $900K (or whatever the max was for 2010).
His potential bonus(es) total(s) $2.24MM.

Bonus cushion. Here’s how it works.

1) a player’s average salary plus any potential bonuses for that season are added up to arrive at the player’s cap hit.
2) the team is allowed to go over the cap ceiling by up to the total of all potential bonuses for all players on the active roster. This is called the cap cushion.
3) the catch is, any bonuses that actually get paid (i.e. go from potential to actual) are subtracted immediately from the bonus cushion.
4) no team is allowed to go over the cap ceiling (or in this case, the adjusted cap ceiling with cushion) for any reason.
5) however, if a team ends up going over the cap ceiling as a result of bonuses paid out (i.e. they spent their cushion thinking the bonuses weren’t going to be paid, and they were), the penalty is that the overage is subtracted from the team’s ceiling for the following season.
6) this is bad. so team’s want to avoid it.

So think of the bonus cushion as a loan of cap space to yourself. You can take out a cap space loan up to the total amount of potential bonuses. But if you end up having to pay the bonuses, and you haven’t otherwise reduced your cap figure, you get penalized the following year.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 18, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

not to be stupid but

so Schenn counts as 3.14 mill in capgeek? If he plays or not?

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by Player-X on May 18, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

nah, only if he's on the active roster

but it’s either the Kings or the Wheat Kings for him. can’t go to manchester. too young.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 19, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I read, the bonuses do not count, so the actual cap hit would be the base salary, right?

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by Player-X on May 18, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

no (and yes, sort of)

all potential bonuses count against the cap, but you’re allowed to go over the cap by the amount of your bonuses, as long as you get down below the cap if you actually have to pay the bonuses, or else you get docked cap space the following season.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 19, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok maybe I get it

So one must plan for the most likely bonus payouts, i.e. 10 goals probably, 40 goals probably not. To be 100 percent safe, one would count Schenn as 3.14, to totally gamble count him at 900,000. So when I want to make a capgeek roster, I can expect a cushion in the cushion for unpaid cushion, but I have to leave a cushion in the hit for the de-cushioned cushion.
I am gonna just count Schenn as 1.25 mill, and if I am wrong and he gets more bonus money paid which puts me over the total cieling creating a penalty, when that penalty deduction is made agaisnt 2011-2012 I would “use” use the 666,000 for Mcauley that will go away that year anyway. So any extra Schenn bonus penalty from 2010-2011 that gets charged as a penalty by reducing the ceiling in 2011-2012 would likely not be more than the 666,000 to McAuley I already can’t use this year.
For my next trick I will unravel a mobius strip. Which could well be the correct name of the bonus rules, the Mobius clause.

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by Player-X on May 18, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.
So when I want to make a capgeek roster, I can expect a cushion in the cushion for unpaid cushion, but I have to leave a cushion in the hit for the de-cushioned cushion.

Cushion you say?

by 88fingerslukee on May 18, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Hawks do this...

Not sure if Campbell’s buyout is actually worth the gain. Your capgeek after liquidation makes for a very thin blue line, and favors the forwards. As you said yourself, only 6 defensemen to begin with, 4 of which are ELC quality players. Honestly, it does not seem rational that they would deplete themselves to that degree while still holding so many alternatives among the forwards. And, 7,206 dollars in cap space is clearly untenable. There would have to be at least one other loss of player to give space for bonus cushion, etc.
Campbell only gives a benefit of $4,761,875 in buyout, subtracting buyout from salary. Seabrook is more tradable, for one, so you get something back in picks and prospects, and also I think a journeyman/entry level guy can more competently replace a defensive d-man like Seabrook than a player like Campbell. Plus, Seabrook goes RFA after 2010-2011, and he will command a significant raise, so now is when his trade value is best. So, if you lose Seabrook, the difference in cap space cleared is $1,261,875 less compared to Campbell, but a stay-at-home defenseman is more likely to be efficient at the minimum salary than would a puck-mover and skater like Campbell, so you wouldn’t eviscerate your defense corps while sparing the forwards from same.
Sopel goes UFA after 2010-2011. He is playing well, really well. I never saw his feet moving, or him passing so well, when he was with the Kings. I remember him as being slow and indecisive, thought he was 37 years old back then and slowing down. Now, he looks like a really good player. He will be 34 when he hits free agency; at $2,333,333 a year I think many teams would be glad to have him. He could well be traded, again for organizational depth players, picks and prospects, saving 2.333 outright, or saving 1.333, let’s say, if you trade him for a 1 million dollar 23 year old d-man from somewhere. I really do think a lot of teams would like him, and they would be getting a solid veteran playing in his “contract year”, too.
So now you have cleared the same cap space defensively, if you trade Sopel for a non-roster player, but kept an irreplaceable Campbell and lost a more closely replaceable Seabrook.
Bolland going, yes, probably, but he is doing an awesome job so far defensively (and also has three playoff goals) against first the Sedins and now Thornton. But teams are stupid and don’t value good checking, just like the Norris goes to the D-man that scores more. I would take Bolland in a heartbeat, signed at 3.375 mill thru 2013-2014 he would be excellent at either Checking center #2 or Scoring center #2. Also, Handzus goes UFA after 2010-2011, and with Handzus at 4 mill Bolland insures us having at least one checking center regardless of whether Handzus remains.
Of course you knew all along where this was going; now we need to clear cap space among the forwards. The Hawks simply would not put themselves into only 6 d-men for the season, so they need to clear out another forward to make space. That is why I think they would let go of another 3-4 million guy.
You listed Ladd, I agree, for sure.
I disagree with Burish, who goes UFA this summer. From .7 mill, maybe he gets 1.2 mill tops, probably 1 mill. I would be interested to hear your opinion on what he would command… But he is competent and effective, worth a million to many teams, and not expensive enough to yield any significant space if either lost or kept.
Madden has to go, I agree, he is UFA this summer, older, and the money just isn’t there at 2.8 mill.
Huet, agreed, buy him out, it seems (from my understanding) to be cheaper than if he got picked up on waivers.
So the remaining 3-4 million guys left are: Sharp signed at 3.9 thru 2011-2012 then he is UFA, Versteeg signed at 3.083 million thru 2011-2012 then he is RFA, and Byfuglien signed at 3 mill thru 2010-2011 then he is RFA.
There is no way Byfuglien re-signs at 3 mill, so losing him now simultaneously solves a later problem, too, and probably saves the most cap space in total after all three players go thru new contracts.
I would be least likely to trade Versteeg, if I were Chicago, because he is youngest, I have him for two years locked up, and his upside is clearly very high and yet to be determined. Truly versatile, scoring touch, speed, and is part of the best playoff shutdown line stopping Sedins and Thornton in just his second year in the league, after being a finalist for the Calder in his first year. He is a keeper, that is why I want him so bad, and since the Hawks were stupid enough to put themselves in this situation maybe they will be stupid enough to lose Versteeg, too.
Sharp is another versatile guy; point on PP, good on face-offs, excellent on penalty kill with short-handed threats extraordinaire, scores 20-25, had a 36 goals season once, checks responsibly, and is fast fast fast. He might be the most likely to be traded among these three, since he gets the most money at 3.9 mill and has seemed to reach his potential. I would be happy with him instead of Justin Williams, for example, because even though Williams has flair and quickness, he is just plain injury-prone, inconsistent and not as good defensively as Sharp, and is also nowhere nearly as versatile. Close to same money, better player less likely to be hurt.
As you can see, I am still hoping!! Come on Mr. Lombardi, those guys need to make some moves, please don’t make the fans watch another summer go by when the good players go elsewhere… The Kings have assets, the Kings are deep in prospects; use just a few of them to go to teams that need to clear cap space, and don’t make us wait for three years for 3 or 4 prospects to eventually yield one quality player with the upside to match what these available players already display consistently.

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by Player-X on May 20, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like your enthusiasm, Player-X, but it would really help if you double-spaced between paragraphs. This post made my eyes cross.

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by RudyKelly on May 20, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only double space between paragraphs on long posts...

But from now on I wll do that even on the short ones like the one you were talking about.

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by Player-X on May 21, 2010 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I ran the numbers of your alternate plan for Chicago

The good news: They would be 2.1MM under the cap (at the current ceiling).
The bad news: They have traded Byfuglien, Sharp, Ladd and Seabrook for nothing more than picks and prospects. That is simply brutal. I was only willing to imagine they would get rid of two of the five names I listed, and you picked three of them and then dumped Ladd.

My scheme dumped Bolland, Campbell, Sopel and Burish.
Yours kept those four and dumped Byfuglien, Sharp, Ladd and Seabrook.

I see the logic of your argument, but I don’t think Chicago could ever do that (I also don’t think they should) without having a total fan mutiny.

However, just the fact that this can even be presented as a reasonable proposal — trading away $12MM worth of contracts for picks and prospects — shows just how f**ked Chicago is.

I mean, they could also trade Kane for Justin Williams and Toews for Stoll and Keith for Drewiske and all their cap problems would be solved. Wait, would it? No, they would still have another $3-4MM to shed. Okay, buy-out Huet. Done.

They’re just screwed head first deep into concrete.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 20, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao

“They’re just screwed head first deep into concrete.”
…with rebar coming out both ears.

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by Player-X on May 21, 2010 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you run these, it works leaving $311,997 in cap space. The bastards might get away with it.

Toews-6.3
Kane-6.3
Hossa-5.275
Versteeg-3.083,333
Byfuglien-3.0
Defensive center-2.0, acquired in Bolland trade with picks/prospects
Ben Eager-1.8 (given a raise)
Kopecky-1.2
Brouwer-1.025
Burish-1.0 (given a raise)
Bollig-.545
Dowell-.525
Klinkhammer-.500

Campbell-7.142,875
Keith-5.538,642
Sopel-2.333,333
Defensive Pylon-1.500 (acquired in trade for Seabrook plus picks/prospects)
Stanton-.897,500
Connelly-.875
Carlsson-.565

Niemi-3.0 (given a raise)
Crawford-.800
Huet-1.875 (buyout)

Sharp is gone, traded for either picks and prospects only, or traded for a 1.5 million defensive defenseman.
To avoid icing the three dregs on defense, you could take Sopel’s 2.333 and add Connelly’s .875 to get a fund of 3.205. Trade Sopel for a 1.5 guy, then sign another 1.5 guy from free agency.
Or, you could get the second 1.5 defensive guy in the Sharp trade above.

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by Player-X on May 21, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, we both forgot about Hjalmarsson-

RFA at .6 mill, he’s a keeper and probably a good deal, trade Sopel and pay Hjalmarsson a raise… Is the horse dead yet?

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by Player-X on May 21, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i actually don't care as much about which cheap defenseman they keep or whether sopel stays or goes

i’m focused more on the fact that they have some seriously horrible “rock/hard place” decisions to make about their stars.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 22, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, dude, you got your answer

You don’t believe me, Quisp lays it out for you. What you were advocating in your thread isn’t exactly what Chicago has been doing to get to this point, but I would still argue that you’re working on a false assumption: i.e., that the Kings have to roll the dice and win it all now, even if it means taking on an unsustainable contract structure and blocking the progress of young players.

Young players cannot develop without playing time. They’re also cheaper than veterans, just because of the way the CBA has been set up for, oh, almost as long as I can remember. And just as in Major League Baseball, that, combined with GMs’ natural human bias to value past performance over likely future return, means that veterans with little upside left and lots of downside will cost more to employ than young players who could probably do the same job about as well. Yes, there is risk to relying on young players, but a) without the ELCs, you have no room to sign star players and keep them as a core, and b) as I said in your thread, the surest way to make sure that you lose your best prospects to other teams is to block their progress.

I understand the concern that the Kings will never get beyond “almost good enough,” but it’s a fallacy that you can design a team that is guaranteed to win the Stanley Cup. It’s always something of a crapshoot, and that’s why I like Lombardi’s strategy of building a team that will contend seriously not just for a window of a year or two, but over a period of years. You don’t have to be the dominant team on paper to win. But if you’re good enough to go deep in the tournament year after year, you’ll have enough chances that it will pay off for you sooner or later, and maybe multiple times before you have to rebuild again.

by DougX on May 18, 2010 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want to be very careful here, because your tone borders on adverserial in some places and I don’t want that.
“You don’t believe me, Quisp lays it out for you.”
I did not disbelieve you, we were talking about a slight difference in emphasis on player roles, and relative worth for those roles.
“…it’s a fallacy that you can design a team that is guaranteed to win the Stanley Cup.”
I agree. I did not advocate a ‘Yankees" style spree, or say that my plan would guarantee a cup. Again, I was just trying to keep the team less top-heavy so the Kings could have four lines. Instead of the big sniper signing for 6-7 million, my post signed a defenseman for 4-4.5 million (Hamhuis, now other people like Volchenkov which is okay too) and create a speed line by trading money-for-money even-up to make that line a reality.
“you’re working on a false assumption: i.e., that the Kings have to roll the dice and win it all now”
I want to make a leap from Clune, Ivanans, Halpern to Boogard, Schenn, Moller. I want to go from O’Donnell and Jones, to Hamhuis and Drewiske.
I want to go from Williams and Frolov to Versteeg and Koivu.
I don’t hink that is rolling the dice, I think it is making calculated player changes to give the team a more diversified look. I am going to do up the capgeek long-term, I already know it would work the coming year with 1.1 mill leftover.
If you don’t like the particular players I named, I would be fine with other players that have the same traits for the same money, but the two I named are potentially available, at least. The Kings are great at cycle and down low offense, but team speed is not great. I seek to remedy that and diversify the attack, not take on unstainable contracts to roll the dice and guarantee a win this season.

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by Player-X on May 18, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

ehh I think it’s more valuable to have a game-changer like malkin or kovalchuk rather than 2 average guys. Of course, it depends on the role those average players are filling, and who you have to substitute if you do have the great player.

by hughestom1 on May 18, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a lighter note...

Monarchs win! Monarchs win! Monarchs WIN!!! I sure hope that Justin Avezedo earns a legitimate tryout with the Kings next season. Could he be the high scoring wing they’ve missed since Cammeleri was sent to Alberta?

and on the 93rd postseason of the National Hockey League, the Slovakian-hockeygod Zeus commanded from high atop Mount Figueroa..."RELEASE THE MEAT TRAIN!" And it was good.

by DodgerBlueBalls on May 17, 2010 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

more likely Brandon Kozun, AKA Rorsharch from Watchmen.

by Nut on May 20, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

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