I Take Back Everything I Said About the Sharks' Cap Situation
by Quisp on May 26, 2010 12:15 PM PDT
in Capmania, Capaphobia, Capaphilia, Capnesia
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I do not know what I was thinking, really. Forget everything I said in the previous Sharks-cap post. I have revised my numbers, to correct for a previously too low cap hit for Pavelski and Malhotra. The main change between this chart and the previous (idiotic) one is that some names are dropped from this one. Just minor ones. Blake, Marleau and Nabokov. Obviously, my conclusions have flipped.
- The market for Marleau and Nabokov is likely to be higher than the Sharks can (or should try to) afford. Certainly, signing one of them is possible, but both -- not.
- If you had to pick one, I think you go with Marleau, since he's got a lot left in the tank. But if you make that choice, you are limited as to what you can do to upgrade the defense (i.e. you can't).
- I happen to think, if I'm the Sharks, a blue-chip shut-down defenseman is the most important piece to add this summer. Like a Blake upgrade. Better, younger, and an upgrade in leadership wouldn't hurt either.
- There really isn't that much out there in terms of UFA goalies. Nabokov is actually the top of the list. It doesn't make sense to offer a big money contract to a goalie over 35 who hasn't "gotten it done" in his several golden opportunities. If the Sharks shore up the d, maybe it's time to hand the reigns to Greiss. They just need to bring in a decent back-up. Ideally, a cheap one.
- Like Erik Ersberg. Hmm. He's the odd man out in LA. He's played a few games. Should be able to get him from Lombardi for a pick. I'm not just saying this because this is a Kings blog. He's going somewhere this summer, to be somebody's back-up. We'll take that #88 pick off your hands.
Anyway, here's my revision.
| 2010-11 San Jose Sharks | ||
| PLAYER | BONUS | CAP HIT |
| FORWARDS | ||
| Dany Heatley | — | $7,500,000 |
| Joe Thornton | — | $7,200,000 |
| * Joe Pavelski | — | $4,250,000 |
| Ryane Clowe | — | $3,625,000 |
| * Hybrid 2nd/3rd line Swiss Army Knife, with a cup ring | — | $3,000,000 |
| * Devin Setoguchi | — | $2,400,000 |
| * Manny Malhotra | — | $1,750,000 |
| Torrey Mitchell | — | $1,366,667 |
| Logan Couture | ($425,000) | $1,241,667 |
| * Prospect Who Surprises Everyone in Camp | — | $900,000 |
| * Scott Nichol | — | $900,000 |
| * Steven Zalewski | — | $900,000 |
| * Crusty veteran bottom-six forward who doesn't make waves when he's scratched | — | $750,000 |
| DEFENSEMEN | ||
| Dan Boyle | — | $6,666,667 |
| * Younger, Better Blake (UFA or trade), top four, expensive | — | $4,500,000 |
| Marc-Edouard Vlasic | — | $3,100,000 |
| Douglas Murray | — | $2,500,000 |
| Kent Huskins | — | $1,700,000 |
| Nick Petrecki | ($350,000) | $1,125,000 |
| Jason Demers | — | $543,333 |
| GOALTENDERS | ||
| * Cheap B/U with some experience (e.g. Erik Ersberg) | — | $750,000 |
| Thomas Greiss | — | $550,000 |
| ROSTER SIZE | 22 | |
| SALARY CAP | $56,800,000 | |
| PAYROLL | $57,218,333 | |
| BONUSES | $775,000 | |
| CAP SPACE | $356,667 | |
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Seemed to me that they made their decision on Marleau when they sigend Heatley. I am still trying to figure out why he would get more thah Thornton, but I guess it was just because Thornton signed earlier and Heatley came with that contract already committed. But that amount makes it really tough to keep Marleau, when you have 14.7 already gone and than you add another 6.5 to 7 to that for a new Marleau deal.
I agree about Nabokov, dollar for return would be good at current rate but he is going to want more. Even with Marleau gone, I would think Nabbie is too much.
Maybe we could work with them on a deal for Ersberg, not sure. If I was them, I would think the fanbase would almost require a proven guy, through trade, so maybe the Shirks (as in duty shirked) will free some cap space in the same trade by making a deal for a name goalie
Looking at your list, seems like the Shirks have Clowe overpaid, to me. $3.625 for that guy? He is good, big, yeah, but it just seems like he is no John LeClaire when LeClaire was in his heyday, for example. A smart trade might save a million, maybe a million and a quarter for a similar player to give you 15 -20 goals a year, they could package Clowe with some picks/prospects to get that name goalie.
Let’s just hope they stay away from Chicago, I want the low-hanging fruit off that tree first.
End Corporate Personhood.
chicago will want to deal players out of the conference, if they can
the question of back-up depends on their confidence in greiss. ersberg is a perfectly viable option. i’m sure they have their list. ray emory, etc…
Wait till this year.
Well, if SJ is going to trade to clear cap space...
… Chicago is probably one of the last teams they’ll be talking to, because they’ll be trying to do the same thing, only even more so.
I agree that Lombardi ought to taking calls from Junior Bowman, though. The Kings are probably one of the relatively few teams in good position to take advantage of the impending fire sale.
You are correct sir
I only mentioned Chicago because I was looking for a low-profile way to keep the meme out there for the Kings to get Versteeg, Sharp, Bolland or Byfuglien, I agree the Sharks wouldn’t likely deal with them this summer. Unless, they want to really think outside the “crease” and go for Huet… Actually, maybe we should start a campaign to convince them to get Huet, imagine the melt-down that would create….
End Corporate Personhood.
Ha. I was totally willing to believe that you were lowballing Nabby on purpose, because they should probably let him walk. Illusions…shattered. :)
In Dinglebarn We Trust
Well, I happen to think Nabokov would be smart to sign for peanuts with incentives (which you can do on a geriatric contract)
otherwise everyone hates you and you’re untradeable. regardless, the sharks can’t afford more than $2-3MM worth of goalie.
I made and will make the same argument re Frolov, incidentally. He would do well to sign a deal that is a bargain, e.g. $3.5MM/4 yrs. He won’t though.
Wait till this year.
The problem with trying to retain your UFAs...
… is that a league in which Glen Sather still has a job as GM means that there is probably someone, somewhere who will overpay for them. ;-)
although Sather specifically has nearly $7MM in cap hit invested in his goalie for the next several years
but, yeah, I get your point. Burke has Gigeure, too, or he’d be in the conversation.
Wait till this year.
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