Wanton Baseless Kovalchuk Speculation
Here's what we know so far:
- New Jersey claims to be very much alive in the Kovalchuk sweepstakes, despite having little cap room left. (I will look at those numbers momentarily.)
- Dean Lombardi has responded tersely to with lots of "no" "nothing's happening," "no comment," "not sure" if the Kings are still in the mix. Lombardi just told Hammond he was closing up shop for the night (not that he used these words).
- There has been not one word or even rumor from anyone about anyone outside of the Devils and Kings being "in play" for Kovalchuk.
- Many teams ate up most or all of their cap room today, reducing the possible homes for IK. (I will walk through the possible NHL suitors.)
Here's how I interpret the events of today:
- Since the Kings admit to being involved in the Kovalchuk "bidding," I'm going to go out on a limb and declare that Lombardi has a number in mind (and I've said this a million times), beyond which he will not go. The range of that upper limit, it's safe to say, is somewhere between $7MM and $8MM. Not less than $7MM because, frankly, Kovalchuk is not going to sign for less than Kopitar. Not more than $8MM because I've looked at the cap figures of 2011-12, and beyond $8MM the Kings start creating trouble for themselves two, three, four seasons down the road. I mean, Chicago kind of trouble.
- Since Kovalchuk has not signed with the Kings today, or anyone else, it stands to reason that Kovalchuk's number and Lombardi's are not close. If Kovalchuk's agent came in asking for $9MM and Lombardi offered $6MM, we would have a deal now, having met in the middle somewhere. If it were just a matter of cap hit, Lombardi could have extended the term to bring the cap hit down into a manageble range. The fact that no deal was struck, not with the Kings or the Devils (or anyone else), tells me that Kovalchuk is either sticking to a firm, non-negotiable number or is starting way too high, or both.
- I do not think, for example, that Kovalchuk's agent took the tack of "Look, the KHL is offering $12MM tax free, but Ilya wants to play in the best league in the world and he doesn't need $12MM. He wants to play for a team that's going to contend for the cup for the next decade and he wants to be a part of it. Therefore, we're looking at a deal in the neighborhood of $9MM." I do not think he said anything like this, because if that were the general neighborhood, Lombardi would have come back with the actual numbers. "We can't sign IK at $9MM because then look what happens when we have to re-sign so-and-so. The team that IK wanted to play for would be dismantled before it ever won anything."
- No, I think it's pretty obvious that Kovalchuk has a firm number in the neighborhood of $9-11MM. Since Lombardi knows the Devils' management team pretty well (Lou is his mentor), I think Lombardi knows that neither one of them will pay $10MM for ten years for IK. (I'm pretty sure I think this. But...anything is possible.)
- So I think Kovalchuk's whole position amounts to, the KHL is offering x, and we're not staying here for less than y. Y being a number that doesn't work.
- Otherwise, there would be a deal already.
- I think it's a game of chicken. Kovalchuk says, pay this or I go to the KHL. Lombardi says, be my guest. And waits. And hopes New Jersey does the same. As they appear to have. So far. Three-way chicken.
- So now, with a night to sleep on it, the parties get to re-evaluate their positions. But what does that mean? It means, does Lombardi come off his number? Or does Kovalchuk? I don't get the feeling that Lombardi likes being ultimatumed. (I know that's not a word.) Rob Blake's $4MM non-negotiable take-it-or-leave-it offer of two years ago comes immediately to mind. Kovalchuk, for his part, probably knows whether he's really willing to go back to that ramshackle league that will likely go bankrupt long before it ever pays Kokvalchuk all his money. And the wild card is, of course, a third party swooping in and making an offer that Kovalchuk just takes because he doesn't like having his bluff called.
- Oh, and: I no longer buy even one single tiny bit of the "Kovalchuk doesn't care about money, he wants to win" propaganda. If Kovalchuk wants to win, he makes a list of the teams he thinks fit that description and his agent calls all of them today and says, Ilya wants to see if you can fit him into your plans. PIT, WAS, CHI, DET, NJD, LAK, SJS, VAN, maybe some others. He has them in order and he sees what they come back with. Nothing in the way teams were dealing today tells me that those teams are making any kind of provisional room for Kovalchuk. We've heard nothing of the sort.
- Before today, my attitude was, Kovalchuk wants to play for a contender, until proven otherwise. Now it's, Kovalchuk is about the money, until proven otherwise. Because, if not, he would already have a deal.
- Also-also: I do not think this is a situation of Lombardi low-balling Kovalchuk, or being afraid to pony up. Why? Because if Lombardi had offered, say, $5.5MM over 10 years (Hossa-ish), Kovalchuk would have passed and Lombardi would have moved on, and he wouldn't bother with "no comment" and "I'm not sure" if the Kings are in the mix. There would be no point. In fact, what would stop him from saying, flat-out, not interested? The fact that he has said nothing tells me that the negotiation is still open, although that doesn't mean they're not stuck in the mud with $3MM separating them.
- As more teams eat up their cap space, Kovalchuk's options shrink. Another reason I think we're dealing with the KHL here. It doesn't serve his purpose to wait, otherwise.
Now, I am not exactly gung-ho about the King Kovalchuk version of the future. But for the sake of argument, I'm going to pretend I am. I want to look at the other clubs, to see who is really viable. I've been running the Kovalchuk cap charts for a week or so now. This time, I'm going to take a different approach. I'm going to pretend I'm club x, and pretend I really gotta have Kovy, and see what I have to do to make it possible. First up:
New Jersey Devils
They've got $4MM in cap space with 18 players signed, which means they've got 2-5 players left to sign. They need to sign three forwards and a defenseman, basically. I would note that four cheap players at $700K each is $3.6MM, which would leave them with $400K in cap space remaining. Doesn't sound like enough for Kovy. But let's dig deeper.
Subtract one of those forwards (since we're replacing him with IK). That's $1.1MM for Kovy. Now, there's a bonus cushion of $240K. Let's spend it! And during the summer, the cap is temporarily raised by 10%. $5.94MM. Let's blow that too!
That's $7.28MM. Is that enough to snag Kovy? As a cap-hit, I have to say, yes it is. So New Jersey could make a ten year / $72MM offer and that miiiiight look good enough to Kovy.
But.
Lombardi can and I believe would top that offer in a heartbeat. $7.5-$8MM is self-evidently a perfectly fair price for Kovalchuk and there is simply no way that Lombardi or AEG would have any problem paying that.
And New Jersey would have to bend over backwards to make an offer as high as $7.28MM. They would have all summer to dump basically $7MM worth of contracts for no salary back, with everyone in the league knowing they have to do it. Does Lou want to put himself in that position? I'm going to say no.
So that means we have nothing to fear from New Jersey. Unless they start moving salary tomorrow. Then watch out. The same can be said about:
Detroit, Boston, Toronto, Montreal, the Rangers, San Jose and Ottawa
To varying degrees, if they want to spend the whole summer making bad trades of millionaires for picks and prospects, they could just barely sort of maybe do it. Okay, so let's just say that the Rangers are the only ones crazy enough to try it.
Sather has $6.4MM in cap space, $1MM in bonus cushion and the $5.9MM summer overage he can spend. So he can take a swing at Kovy. Maybe he offers $10MM and then has to dump approximately $3MM in contracts. Maybe a little more, unless he's willing to have an active roster of 20.
But what the hell. We're dealing with crazy people here. So Sather could do it. And would Lombardi have any interest in beating a Sather franchise-killing deal? No, of course not. So, if you're a Kings fan and you desperately want Kovy, I think it's reasonable to be "afraid" of the Rangers.
Though really it would be f***ing hilarious. Who else? Well, you can't rule out
The Isles, Blues, Thrashers, Avs, Ducks, Yotes and Sabres
Any one of those teams has the cap space to make an offer that Lombardi simply would not want to match. Presumably, he's not going to go back to Atlanta after all this. The Avs have said they're not in the running. I can see the Isles making a crazy offer and I can almost see Kovalchuk going for it. It's kinda New York and they're not really a contender but if you squint there's a lot of talent there, etc., etc.. I think that's a long shot, though. They're all long shots. And frankly the only one I care about at all is
The Ducks
The Ducks have basically a full roster right now, around $15MM in cap space and a Bobby Ryan problem. What if they decide to throw $9MM at Kovy? They would then probably have to trade Ryan's rights, or else sign him and dump someone else. The Ducks are pretty thin though and signing IK wouldn't help matters. He could score a million goals and they would still lose most of their games, probably. Would Kovalchuk not care, if the money were right and he were allowed to do whatever the hell he wants on the ice?
I can kind of see it.
But, you know, if Kovalchuk went to the Ducks, and the Ducks were to send us Bobby Ryan for picks or for a little salary back (because they couldn't take on too much), I would be okay with that.
And I can see the Ducks going for Kovy just to screw Ryan, since he's not playing ball. Or something.
What have I learned by doing this?
I'm not afraid of New Jersey. I might be afraid of the Ducks. If it's the Rangers, I will just crack up. And if he goes to the KHL, it was never going to happen here anyway. Oh, and the part about not believing Kovy's happy nonsense about just wanting to win.
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the catbird seat
whew… it would take me longer to absorb all your info than it took you to research it and put it all together. (thanks!) from my p.o.v. DL ultimately has nothing to lose by sticking to his guns. given the youth of his team, given all the “assets” at his disposal to make a savory trade, given the inevitable need for one team or another to jettison a marquee scorer of the sort we would like to add, i say Deano will poker face this one until Kovy’s camp is blue in the face and cant’ take it any more. not getting IK would not be the end of the world for the Kings.
then again, i probably have such twisted delusions of DL’s grandeur that at times i wished he were my father.
papa!
i'll show you my butt tattoo if you'll show me yours
Imagine breathing through a heavy mask
“Falmer… I am your father.”
Okay, this is weird because I’ve just imagined DL as Clint Eastwood and Darth Vader in the same comments section….
But yeah, I agree that Lombardi sticks to his guns. Niesy and I were kicking around eBay as an analogy earlier. When you enter into what will be a competitive auction, you should fix in your mind how much you’re willing to pay before you enter your bid and not go over that price for any reason. “Bid once, and bid your max,” as the veteran buyers say. Otherwise, you’re setting yourself up to overpay, and buyer’s remorse is a sick feeling that no amount of Pepto Bismol will get out of your gut.
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
So that means… Lamoriello is Lee Van Cleef (“Angel Eyes Lou”), and Snow (or Wang, better yet) is Eli Wallach (aka “Tuco”)? OK, if Deano wins this one, we’ll have to buy him a cigar and a nice sarape to sport at the next GM’s meeting.
From now on, when I read about FA signings, trades and the such, I will always hear the music of Ennio Morricone
i'll show you my butt tattoo if you'll show me yours
The only issue is
you assume that if the Ducks sign Kovy, then they would trade Ryan for picks/prospects/little salary going back and that the Kings could make this trade, but I’m sure if Ryan were on the block there would be at least 10 other teams interested in adding him to the roster if not more(I’m limiting the number due to him needing about $5 million in salary so some teams can’t do it cap-wise) and it is probably highly unlikely that the Kings actually would be able to trade for him. Other than that, great post and as always love hearing your opinions and musings.
Lesser minds are panicked by the silence
Including, I might say, Helene Elliot.
But I’m right with you on your analysis, Quisp. I can totally buy into this as a three-way standoff. I’m kind of imagining something like the last scene in… I want to say, For a Few Dollars More, but it may have been The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, where the three guys are all staring at each other, waiting for one to draw. Chicken is probably a more apt analogy, but this one pleases me in a perverse way. Probably because I can imagine Lombardi in the Clint Eastwood role, and Clint always won in the end in the spaghetti Westerns. :-D
Slightly different perspective from a Devils' fan
Just to play Devil’s advocate (pun totally intended), there are rumblings that Lou may be trying to unload Salvador ($2.9m) and/or Zubrus (3.4m).
If he were able to, he could take a cap hit for Kovalchuk as high as $8.5m and fill the roster out to 20 players from within (Josefson and Pelley as forwards and Urbom to fill in for Salvador) without even needing the 10% breathing room.
Not saying he should or would, but he could.
To "resign" is to voluntarily leave a position; retire. To "re-sign" is to sign again. When talking about free agents, please use the correct one.
Your theory is my theory, Quisp. Dean’s got his best poker face on. Both GMs are standing firm. And everything DL said to the media yesterday read to me like “I’m not the one who has to change his position. You are.”
I do wonder how much Lou genuinely wants Kovalchuk. He could want him badly. Or he could be out of it and not want to do his rival any favors by bowing out. The cost of saying you’re still in the hunt is nil.
I agree the key lines about Jersey are, “unless they start moving salary tomorrow, then watch out.” :)
In Dinglebarn We Trust
I don't think him not signing a deal yet is a sure sing it's all about the money for him
He may have offers from a few teams like LA, NJ, NYR, ANA, STL, or whoever, and he may just be taking his time deciding what he thinks is the best fit and which team he believes has the best chance to win.
Granted it’s not going to be solely about winning, he wants to get a big deal that will secure him and his family’s future, but it won’t all be about winning either.
U are right about sather
he is absolutely crazy take the boogaard signing for example
as for kovi He wants to be paid more the Ovi, for years kovi has been the top russian in the league the best goal scorer an then: dun dun dun:
enter Ovi then all the hype is about him. with the contract ovi got kovi needs a bigger cap hit if not as big as ovi otherwise he would have to admit ovi is a much better and more complete hockey player. beware kings fans your would be signing a mercenary loyal to himself only
Kovalchuk to the KHL? No way!..
The author of the article should rest assured that Ilya isn’t going to Russia. If he wanted to, he would have signed with SKA St. Petersburg a million times already. The Russian club reportedly offers the sniper more than $10 milj. annually tax-FREE (which obviously is much more than any NHL club is ready to pay). So if Ilya only cared about money he would have put on a SKA jersey with a sickle and a hammer on it a long time ago. – BTW, I’ve lately read interview with his Mother in the Russian press, and she stated clearly that Ilya wasn’t going to Russia with his wife and kids














