Frolov awaits end of epic "Los Angeles" (seriously)
Report: Rangers, Kings interested in Alexander Frolov - ProHockeyTalk - Hockey - NBC Sports
At first it seemed like the Kings were going to part with Frolov, but can you blame them for taking a look too? The team missed out on Kovalchuk and (passed on?) Gagne, so their options come down to the familiar (Frolov) or the risky (someone like Lee Stempniak). Both the Kings and Rangers would be better with Frolov, but each team needs to accept that he will only provide a boost. If their expectations go any higher than that, they're likely to be let down.
Then there's this from ... from ... I don't really know:
Агент Сергей Исаков: "Фролова желает еще и "Рейнджерс"" - - Газета "Спорт день за днем"
Пожалуй, нынешнее межсезонье можно назвать одним из самых захватывающих. Ведь на трансферном рынке КХЛ фигурируют такие звездные имена, как Илья Ковальчук, Максим Афиногенов, Александр Фролов, Евгений Набоков, Доминик Гашек… Кто-то уже трудоустроился, а кто-то еще и нет. В нашей беседе кое-какие карты открыл агент Сергей Исаков. Он работает в хоккее уже целых двадцать лет. — Игроков НХЛ хочет видеть в своих рядах каждый клуб. И это естественно, — считает Сергей. — И многие возвращаются. Это говорит о том, что уровень КХЛ еще вырос. — Некоторые хоккеисты пока все же отдают предпочтение НХЛ. Илья Ковальчук, например, заключил контракт с "Нью-Джерси" аж на семнадцать лет… — Я всегда уважал и уважаю решение Ильи. В случае с ним думаю, что ему еще рано ехать сюда. Пусть пока играет там. — Этим летом вы совершили один из самых громких переходов — в СКА перебрался Евгений Набоков. Было много разговоров о том, что питерский клуб желает заполучить и Александра Фролова. Сейчас же все как-то поутихло. Проясните ситуацию. — Со СКА пока все на уровне слухов. Я ни в какие серьезные переговоры не вступал. На данный момент только любезничаем и мило общаемся с Александром Медведевым и Андреем Точицким. Обсуждаем возможности приезда Фролова. Но конкретики нет. Ни о каких цифрах и о чем-то еще вообще не говорили. Указаний пока не было. Скажем так, ждем его отмашки. — А на какой стадии переговоры с Уфой? — Пока тоже ни на какой. Саша сосредоточился на "Лос-Анджелесе". За последние два дня клуб, в котором наш клиент отыграл восемь лет, как-то особенно активизировался. Стал неожиданно проявлять интерес. Сейчас агент Фролова в Северной Америке Дон Мин ведет работу по поводу подписания нового контракта. — Выходит, Фрося, как называют его друзья, хочет остаться "королем"? — Видимо, да (улыбается). Раз сказал переговоры с российскими клубами приостановить. Ведь его хочет видеть не одна команда КХЛ. Но он ждет, чем закончится эпопея с "Лос-Анджелесом". И на данный момент еще неизвестно, насколько может быть рассчитан контракт. Кстати, большой интерес к Фролову проявляет еще и "Нью-Йорк Рейнджерс". Вполне возможно, что Саша продолжит свою карьеру в Нью-Йорке. Суперновость! Между прочим, я вам первой об этом сказал. — Александр Иванович Медведев говорил, что хотел бы видеть в своем клубе как Александра Фролова, так и еще одного вашего звездного клиента — Максима Афиногенова. — Так же как и от Саши, ждем указаний и от Макса. Недавно он уехал в Америку и сказал, что до 10 августа никакого решения принимать не станет. Но пока он все-таки отдает предпочтение НХЛ. Знаете же, Афиногенов и в том году остался за океаном. Несмотря на то что там ему предложили контракт намного меньше, чем здесь. Но его и это не остановило. В общем, каждому свое. — Мне кажется, руководители СКА желают подписать игроков НХЛ по максимуму, создать дрим-тим… — Просто хотят собрать хорошую команду. Хотя она у них и так неплохая. Питерский клуб уже сделал огромное дело, подписав Набокова. Во всяком случае я точно знаю, что на вратарской позиции на протяжении четырех лет клуб точно не будет иметь никаких проблем. Пока же все идет своим чередом. Сейчас Женя находится в Сан-Хосе, занимается бытовыми проблемами, готовится к отъезду. Как и планировалось ранее, ждем его в Санкт-Петербурге 6 августа. Прилетит один, а в конце августа подъедет его жена с сыном и дочкой. — Вы являетесь агентом порядка шестидесяти игроков. Трудоустроили всех? — 4 августа Никита Филатов улетает в расположение "Коламбуса", Максим Гончаров в этих же числах отправится в "Финикс". Вячеслав Трухно, три года отыгравший в фарме "Эдмонтона", перебрался в "Сибирь". Пока остались без команд Константин Касянчук и Владислав Евсеев. Сейчас занимаемся их трудоустройством.
Google Translator gives us the real scoop:
The agent Sergei Isakov: "want more and Frolov Rangers" - - Newspaper Sports Day by Day "
Perhaps, the current off-season can be called one of the most exciting. After the transfer market CHL features such stellar names as Ilya Kovalchuk, Maxim Afinogenov, Alexander Frolov, Evgeny Nabokov, Dominik Hasek ... Someone has a job, but someone else is not.
Some hockey players while still prefer the NHL. Ilya Kovalchuk, for example, signed a contract with the New Jersey as much as 17 years ... - I have always respected and I respect the decision of Elias. In the case of them think that it is too early to go here. Let it play out there. - This summer, you have committed one of the most high-profile hits - in the SKA moved Evgeny Nabokov. There was a lot of talk about that St. Petersburg club would like to get and Alexander Frolov. Now, somehow abated. Clarify the situation.
- From the CAS until all at the level of rumor. I am not in any serious negotiations did not enter. To date, only compliments and sweet talk to Alexander Medvedev and Andrei Tochitskaya. Discussing the possibility of the arrival Frolov. But no specifics. There is no mention of numbers and something else does not say. Indications have not yet been. Let's just say, wait for his visual signal.
- And at what stage of negotiations with Ufa? - Too long on any. Sasha has focused on "Los Angeles". Over the past two days, club, in which our client played eight years as a particularly intensified. He became suddenly take an interest. Now Agent Frolova in North America, Dong-Min has been working on signing a new contract.
- It turns out Frosya, as his friends called him, wants to remain "king"? - Probably, yeah (smiling).
Once said talks with Russian clubs to stop. After all, it wants to see not one team CHL. But he is waiting for the end of the epic "Los Angeles". And at the moment still unknown to what extent can be calculated by the contract. By the way, of great interest to Frolov takes more and the New York Rangers.
It is possible that Alexander will continue his career in New York. Super news! Incidentally, I will first spoke about this. - Alexander Medvedev said that he would like to see in his club as Alexander Frolov, and even one of your stellar customer - Maxim Afinogenov. - Just as Sasha, and expect guidance from Max. Recently, he went to America and said that until August 10, any decision taken will not. But while he still prefers the NHL. You know well, and Afinogenov in that year was overseas. While there he was offered a contract much less than here. But it and it did not stop. In general, to each his own.
You are the agent of the order of sixty players. Employ all? - August 4, Nikita Filatov, flies in the location of "Columbus", Maxim Goncharov, in the same numbers will go to Phoenix. " Vyacheslav Truhno, three years after playing in the phar "Edmonton", moved to Siberia.
That sounds bad. But I was raised on Hogan's Heroes.
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funny...
i was just gonna post this link…:)
i just got done reading it…
in 1984, i was hospitalized for approaching perfection....
And another one to Beyond the Blueshirts, where I found the link.
The Russian article came from Sportsdaily.ru.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
my hovercraft is full of eels...
how many of us were reading that with some sort of accent…?
in 1984, i was hospitalized for approaching perfection....
you got da' flava...
my nipples explode with delight…:)
in 1984, i was hospitalized for approaching perfection....
Of course not.
Nobody does. One cannot be compared with the likes of Juraj Mikus.
by 88fingerslukee on Jul 26, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
what i also heard were...:
- a four-year deal is apparently on the table from a KHL team…terms and dollars have not been released…
- the rangers have reportedly offered fro a two-year deal for less money annually than the offer from the KHL…
in 1984, i was hospitalized for approaching perfection....
Vyacheslav Truhno, three years after playing in the phar “Edmonton”, moved to Siberia.
How bad was the phar “Edmonton” that Siberia seemed like a better place?
Honor is no substitute for victory.
OK, Frolov =Frosya=Sasha. Then throw Filtov into the mix and whadda you get.
An epic Russian novel where, just when you figure out the ten different names each character is referred to as, it ends, leaving you accept that you’ve just completed one of the most important books on earth, when in fact you’ve just a story where everyone is miserable where they live yet life goes on, so forth and so on.
So, if I get this right, the KHL is offering nothing and everyone is happy staying in America (and Canada, except Edmonton).
Now, only question is how many rations can be expected if these guys play, and does it really matter what camp they report (or are sentenced) to?
I don’t know where Frosya comes from, but Sasha’s a diminutive form of Alexander, like calling someone Bob whose name is Robert.
Honor is no substitute for victory.
Right, I think it also common to have several “nick names”. One for family, one for friends and sometimes one for work. I’ve read books that trapse through peoples lives and the same person will be referred to by three, four and sometimes five names depending if at work, play, family, friends or official matters.
I agree:
Work= Rudy
Play= Rudes
Family= Rudolph
Friends= Douche Bag
Official Matters= Miss Pretty’s Dog Kennel’s Rudolphus Q. Kelly
Dig those crazy machine translations
Everything reads like Japanese “Engrish,” and a paragraph is enough to make you cross-eyed for the rest of the day.
Seriously, it looks like the Rangers could theoretically sign Fro to $4 mil/year, but he’s not getting the $5 mil his camp is said to want. They have $4.4 mil in cap space with 21 signed, and I don’t see them dumping a contract (no matter how small) for Fro.
Realistically, it looks like he could indeed be had for $3.5 mil/year. Which would make it a reasonable proposition to bring him back to the Kings. Make it so!
Also, as long as I was checking in with CapGeek: Vancouver is more than $2 mil over the cap right now! They’re over the minimum roster, so they would just have to dump one of their $3 mil guys, but still; it surprised me. Probably one of their bottom-4 D is expendable.
Frolov’s agent Sergei Isakov tells SovSport: “Alexander Frolov is just about to sign a contract with the NYR.” Says it will be 1yr deal.
Was told Rangers and Alexander Frolov are “in discussions” but deal isn’t done just yet.
Sigh.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
Frolov’s agent Sergei Isakov
Isakov? I wonder if he likes Hop Sing’s.
by RudyKelly on Jul 26, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In case people are curious, Beyond the Blueshirts has a better translation of the article in question than Google does.
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DarrenDreger
Discussions between the Rangers and Frolov (Newport), but the deal isn’t done yet.
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if we dont resign frolov then it seems like the Kings have taken a step back this offseason…
thoughts??
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
Yeah, if he signs a one year deal for a reasonable amount with the Rangers, I can’t see why we also couldn’t have tried to do that. Unless there’s some out-of-left-field trade in the works.
But nothing’s happened yet. The thought still doesn’t make me happy, though.
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Especially considering that everything has said he wants to stay in LA…if this deal is 1yr at a reasonable price (at this point i cant even begin to imagine what DL considers reasonable prices) then why didnt we do it? We have a lil cash to play with, especially for a 1yr deal. I cant even begin to imagine a trade that would make us all feel better about how this has all played out so far…
Kovalchuk-nope
Gagne-nu uh
letting frolov walk-doh!
signing a crappy veteran continuing a cycle that we have seen play out before-priceless!
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
It seems as if we were never an option for Gagne. He got to choose what team(s) to waive his NTC for. If you were a player who has had a few injuries, wouldn’t you prefer the cushier schedule of the East? I would.
OTOH, it’s possible DL didn’t offer anything for him at all, and he wasn’t even asked. But I don’t know.
It’s a bit early to make predictions about our roster in 2011, but if we use next season to bring up some kiddos and prime them for a more serious run in 2012-2013, I’m good with that. A roster with a short-term Fro on the cheap would be stronger, though.
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Definitely…thats all i was getting at…
We have a ton of young talent and if we never toss them in the pool, how will they ever learn to swim…
i just get all juiced up when i think about a full season with Bernier around…
i love quick, but bernier just seems to have that x factor people use when describing goalies…that calmness translates to confidence and for a young group of d men, that alone may be worth the trade off of using youngsters vs buying a high priced free agent or trading for one….’
idk…
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
Yes. Bernier takes me to a happy place. Pretty, pretty butterfly.
I should also add — Fro’s agents could be leaking the negotiations with NY to pump up a bidding war. Why not?
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Until we know who would replace him, yes
But OTOH, the Kings will take a step forward even without making any big moves this summer just because the goaltending is bound to be better next season with Bernier swapping in for Ersberg.
agreed, but that just means we can win a few more games that are relatively low scoring, assuming we have to roll out a young defensive core that may or may not give up more shots or quality scoring chances….
we still stay the same or move back a step in the scoring dept…possibly stay the same or take a step back on defense (although i think anyone makes me feel better than Jones that doucher) and a combo of Quick and Bernier just makes me smile…so there are positives there to be had…
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
so thats a no we have not taken a step back?
you must be burnt out…one word answers usually are not your style!!
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
Looks like the Rangers
TSN is reporting that Fro’s agent says he will sign with the Rangers but the deal isn’t finalized yet. Of course if this off season has taught me anything it is not to believe these reports until pen hits contract paper. But the fact that Alex thinks the Kings mistreated him last season by moving him to the 3rd line, publicly criticizing his play, and benching him (something I tend to agree with), and thus costing him millions of dollars (something I don’t necessarily agree with) it looks less likely that he’d wanna stay with the Kings. Frankly I don’t really blame him, Murray has treated him like shit and Lombardi never seemed to make much of an effort to try to keep him in the fold, e.g., not including his name among what he calls the core, when clearly a 1st round pick with that much talent should be a core guy.
maybe he hasnt called him a core player because he hasnt taken the initiative to be that 100% team player like some other guys have by working out on their own during the summer…
not saying its fair, just playing devils advocate…
and he does have a history of disappearing for games….
none the less i would like to have him on the team…
"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner
maybe he hasnt called him a core player because he hasnt taken the initiative to be that 100% team player like some other guys have by working out on their own during the summer…
They did a whole thing with him 2 years ago showing his workout routine in LA. He lived here year-round and was at the facility with Brown.
Even Pro athletes are human.. if you are treated shitty, then it makes you feel.. shitty.
by hockey jockey on Jul 26, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I can'tr make any sense of that article whatsoever.
Problem is many with syntax there often too.
End Corporate Personhood.
Nothelen
Kings went back to Frolov after Kovalchuk and other move fell through but Fro said no and appears headed to NY Rangers. Gotta love it.
Sounds like a 98%-@% he signs with Rangers
Fro will be flying to NY to get shown the town for a couple of days. The players on the Rangers will help him make his decision, and he’ll sign with the Kings next Monday.
Wait, this is very scary. Did I dream this or do all Russian snipers react this way?
He is as sure as gone...
and yes, you had a dreamscape…..but as far as Fro being a Russian sniper, he’s more like a Russian bear that frequently hides to hybernate:-)
“I want my Fro back!*

Please come back to LA, Sasha!!!
The Spirit of MeatTrain'10!
by DodgerBlueBalls on Jul 26, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions

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