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My source doesn't want to be known, but, here it is: To LA—Kaberle, Grabovski, John Mitchell, Bill Sweatt To the Leafs—Jarret Stoll, Wayne Simmonds, Jack Johnson, Brayden Schenn I think it would be decent for both sides. Leafs continue the youth movement, LA gets some players to help them try to get over the hump a little sooner.

That trade isn't even close to being fair unless you throw in Jonathan Bernier and a couple of 1sts.

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AMAZING

That anyone dare put forth such a lopsided rumor continues to amaze me. Shouldnt but does.

Kaberle is a 1 year rental. 2nd rounder and a good prospect?

by src3 on Aug 10, 2010 3:32 AM PDT reply actions  

I apologize

on behalf of all Leaf fans. Kaberle brings out the crazy in us apparently.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Aug 10, 2010 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

The best part is including Sweatt, whom I understand we no longer have any rights to.

by The '67 Sound on Aug 10, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

you do for 5 more days

and i like him a lot. i think he should come to the Kings for a middle-round pick, absolutely.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Aug 10, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally off topic, Quisp, but have you seen this? My goodness, all hell may break loose…

by JZarris on Aug 10, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Voiding contracts isn't the intent of the NHL

If they go after the other contracts, it would be to get them under an article 26 arbitration to be declared circumvention and would allow the NHL to take away some draft picks.

This would stop the Hossa-style contracts. The NHL doesn’t need to void any more contracts.

by Sydor25 on Aug 10, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are probably right, and were before, but haven’t they stopped the Hossa-style contracts with the Kovi decision (in effect)? Where’s the payoff for the league to retroactively assess penalties but not void the deals?
I know the chances of Luongo/Hossa/others’ deals being voided are infinitesimal but it’s August, and like Lloyd said in Dumb & Dumber…

by JZarris on Aug 10, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t been over to ILWT, but I’m sure most NJ fans want Lou to submit a 15 year deal since Hossa’s contract was “approved”. If Lou does just “take off 2 years” from the submitted contract, then the NHL will just reject it again.

13 years is the most I would try if I was NJ, but can they afford the cap hit? If they keep the same structure and take away 4 years, the cap hit is over $7.5 million. NJ can’t afford that. Will Kovalchuk take a deal closer to the LA offer of $80/13 to stay in NJ? That remains to be seen.

by Sydor25 on Aug 10, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh, good angle. I didn’t think of it that way. By investigating and possibly penalizing the other deals they send a clear message that just shaving two years from the deal won’t be kosher. Nice analysis…

by JZarris on Aug 10, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it might

And it would be hilarious if it happened, AFAIC. :-)

by DougX on Aug 10, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s made it pretty clear he wants to test the market. Burke had some pretty harsh words about his agent.

by The '67 Sound on Aug 10, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

funny

Ha! ha! that has to be a Leaf radio station putting out this crap! Leaf fans always think their trash is worth a lot more!

by bearcookie on Aug 10, 2010 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Where’s Kopitar for Jeff Finger, though? Leafs gotta go with that youth movement. And Finger will help the Kings win now.

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Aug 10, 2010 7:56 AM PDT reply actions  

There they go again....

Leafs trying to give the Kings the Finger

by michael e on Aug 10, 2010 8:03 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Brilliant — that’s what the Kings aspire to, to become the Toronto Maple Leafs. Been there, done that.

by m_and_m on Aug 10, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Methinks that somebody had a couple too many Lakeport Pilsners and Molson Exports before posting rumors on the interwebs, eh?

The Spirit of MeatTrain'10!

by DodgerBlueBalls on Aug 10, 2010 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

too many Lakeport Pilsners and Molson Exports

Shh, keep it down. He said his source doesn’t want to be known.

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Aug 10, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

It must be August.

by JZarris on Aug 10, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Did Lombardi get fired?

That is the only way that trade would happen. If that offer was on the table, Burke would have pulled the trigger long ago.

Lombardi wouldn’t meticulously build a team by slowly adding pieces to then go and destroy everything that he worked for with one trade.

by Sydor25 on Aug 10, 2010 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

It may not be so ridiculous

Then the Kings could clear up cap room for Kovi. they might need one more deal, something like Doughty and a first for Doug Weight. Then, we could pay Kovi 10 mill for 17 years.

End Corporate Personhood.

by Player-X on Aug 10, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

something like Doughty and a first for Doug Weight

Lol!! Stop it! I nearly woke the baby…

by JZarris on Aug 10, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let me just say this…

Never believe any rumor that includes more than six players. The odds of a 7+-player deal going down are very low, because it’s too plain complicated.

That, and the Kings aren’t trading Johnson AND Simmonds. If they were, then we might as well have just signed Kovalchuk in the beginning. And he’s still ending up with the Devils, anyway.

Denis Gauthier sucks at hockey... and life.

by Kevin Y on Aug 10, 2010 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Good rule of thumb. Also, never believe a trade rumor where the Maple Leafs come out on top.

www.prosportsblogging.com

by Great Ice-Pectations on Aug 10, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never believe a trade rumour posted on (a site similar to) HFBoards/Eklund, regardless of who wins/loses.

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by CoolJ90 on Aug 10, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

The odds of a 7+-player deal going down are very low, because it’s too plain complicated.

Very true. I think the Phaneuf deal made things a hell of a lot worse from a fan speculation standpoint. Now tons of fans believe Burke can send spare parts and get a star back.

That, plus NHL10, and a medium (Hfboards) where likeminded crazies can interact, this is the inevitable result.

Once again.. I apologize. I swear not all Leaf fans are this stupid, just a bunch with access to the internet.

Tick Tock, Tomas. Tick Tock.
A drinking team with a hockey problem.

by nhlcheapshot on Aug 10, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aww, you don’t need to apologize for other people. And I think we all know there are some…eh…bizarre viewpoints held by fans of every team. Though I’m sure they’d return the favor and place me on their nutter list too.

In Dinglebarn We Trust

by Niesy on Aug 10, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we have our own...

Anthonyy’s, WWAMD’s, Christabel’s and the like, too!

"That's a nice shirt....you get a bowl of soup with that?"

by pautna on Aug 10, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite part when you read Hockey’s Future or whatever is when someone will offer a crazy trade (Kaberle for Setoguchi and a 1st or something like that) and then when the other teams’ fans say that’s ridiculous, the Leafs fans will say, “Hey, it was offered, so get mad at your own GM for offering it.” Hmm… I wonder who said that was offered… could it have been a Toronto paper that knows people go nuts for that shit?

I still don’t know what Leafs fans are expecting. No team is going to trade for Kaberle unless they’re a contender, and no contender is going to trade a young, top-six player for Kaberle. But that’s what they want. They’re either going to get prospects or they’re going to keep Kaberle. I can’t see another option.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Aug 10, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

You should come by Pension Plan Puppets, we are a lot smarter than that. We are expecting a guy like Clowe (for just Kabby), but maybe something more if we offer more as well.

by samspade on Aug 10, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, they have to hold themselves to a high return for Kaberle at this point. I don’t know if Burke can afford to get “KesSeguined” again. Does that work?

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Aug 10, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

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