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About Those Penalties...

26.13 (b) The System Arbitrator may find a Circumvention has occurred based on direct or circumstantial evidence, including without limitation, evidence that an SPC or any provision of an SPC cannot reasonably be explained in the absence of conduct prohibited by this Article 26. The investigation and findings of the Investigator pursuant to Section 26.10 shall be fully admissible in any proceeding before the System Arbitrator under this Section 26.13. (c) In the event that the System Arbitrator finds that a Circumvention has been committed by a Player or Player Actor, the System Arbitrator may impose any or all of the following penalties and/or remedies set forth below. In the event that the System Arbitrator finds that a Circumvention has been committed by a Club or a Club Actor, the Commissioner may impose any or all of the following penalties and/or remedies [...]

No matter what one's interpretation of the rest of the CBA is, we now know that there will be no fines or penalties assessed to Kovalchuk himself, or his agent, since the arbitrator is the one who would assess those, and he didn't.

However, I keep reading that the fact that Bloch said the Devils and IK acted in good faith that the contract was in compliance with the CBA somehow means that penalties can't therefore be assessed. This is simply not true. The CBA doesn't make any distinction between an intent to circumvent and an action that has the effect of circumventing. It does not say that an "effect of" circumvention is a lesser charge than an "intent to" circumvention. It does not say anything at all about a standard requiring "intent" be shown as a prerequisite for penalties. According to the CBA, if the arbitrator finds agrees that the league has properly rejected a contract for being in circumvention of Article 50 (which is what has occurred here) then, not only does the commissioner have any and all of the Article 26 penalties at his disposal, but he specifically may:

(i) Impose a fine of up to $5 million in the case of a Circumvention by a Club or Club Actor, but in no circumstances shall such fine be less than $1 million against any Club or Club Actor if such party is found to have violated Article 50 of this Agreement [...]

We can debate the Article 26 v. Article 11 process, and have, exhaustively (check the Kovalchuk section of this blog, at the left margin). But the bottom line is, either the commissioner may now impose penalties, or he can wade through a perfunctory Article 26 investigation of "whether or not he thinks the Kovalchuk contract is a circumvention," which, um, he already knows he thinks. So that ought to be a short investigation. Not to mention the fact (that I have mentioned a million times already) that such an investigation would lead to a second arbitration with the system arbitrator (Bloch) who would be limited to ruling on whether the contract was a circumvention...which he has already done. So let's just say that the whole 26/11 distinction doesn't do anything except potentially delay the penalty phase. Oh, and confuse a whole lot of people.

Bettman can have his penalties if he wants them. It's at his discretion. (again, there may be an additional process -- I think there is not, but there could be -- but in any case,  it's purely procedural; there's no finding or ruling that could prevent Bettman from getting his penalties at the end of it.)

I don't know if he'll assess penalties or not. In the Toronto case, a couple of years ago, they docked the team a draft pick, and there was no intent to circumvent at all. That in and of itself is evidence that the intent issue is a non-starter. So it would be weird if he didn't levy some kind of punishment, but I understand why he might not. This case is a big deal. A new CBA has to be negotiated. He may want to bank some goodwill here. (Never a bad idea if you're Bettman.) Especially since I think everybody knows this contract wasn't Lou's idea. It seems to have been forced down his throat by management. And Bettman might (ahem) need Lou with 2012 rolls around.

So, as with this arbitration in the first place, I can see it going either way.

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I still think punishment is coming...

What is the point of the whole exercise if NJ gets away with no repercussions? Clearly the warnings about the Hossa and other contracts didn’t work, why would voiding a contract work if nothing happens to NJ expect getting Kovalchuk to sign for less money and a slighty higher cap hit? Sounds like a win-win for NJ right now.

by Sydor25 on Aug 10, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

On the subject of penalties...

Sydor25—Check out the link below…

If there are penalties which GO FROM NJ TO LAK, now THAT would be quite a deterrent, no?

by BakoCA on Aug 10, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't.

Bloch, as the System Arbitrator, is responsible for penalizing the player. Bloch determined that no penalty was should be imposed on Kovalchuk or Grossman. In essence, there are three parties to the case, Grossman, who negotiated the contract, Kovalchuk, who agreed to it, and the Devils, who negotiated and agreed to it.

If the Devils are guilty of circumvention, so is Kovy. The arbitrator, in passing on penalizing Kovy/Grossman somewhat handcuffs the NHL, as the punishment would only be levied on one of the two parties necessary to violate Article 26. It would be as if two players dropped the gloves and scrapped in a game, and the Referee only penalized one of them.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Aug 10, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be as if two players dropped the gloves and scrapped in a game, and the Referee only penalized one of them.

I’ve seen that happen.

As far as Grossman goes, the Arbitrator doesn’t appear to have jurisdiction over his penalties – that belongs to the NHLPA, per 26.13.c.vii, wherein the NHLPA is given the right to suspend an agent for any period of time if they are involved in a circumvention. Essentially, the Arbitrator can choose penalties for the Player, the Commissioner for the Club, and the NHLPA for the Agent.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Aug 10, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

26.13. © In the event that the System Arbitrator finds that a Circumvention has been committed by a Player or Player Actor, the System Arbitrator may impose any or all of the following penalties

Which, per the “definitions” section is defined in Section 26.2…

26/2 …“Player Actor,” i.e., his Certified Agent or any other
individual, any entity, or the NHLPA, acting on behalf of the Player

The arbitrator certainly has jurisdiction over the Certified Agent’s penalties.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Aug 10, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, thank you, I missed the “or Player Actor” text when I was reading it over.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Aug 11, 2010 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the subject of penalties...

Check out what Bobby Scribe just blogged…

http://lakingsnews.com/2010/08/10/when-the-conventional-wisdom-isnt/

This is the first time I’ve ever read about penalties FROM NJ TO THE LOS ANGELES KINGS…

Quispie—Is this a possibility?

by BakoCA on Aug 10, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

To edit...

Howard Roark wrote the piece, specifically…
Credit/blame where credit/blame’s due.

by BakoCA on Aug 10, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a word: no.

There is no “compensation.” Any picks NJD loses just go into the void.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Aug 10, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

No better way to make a point about unsubstantiated rumors than by starting an unsubstantiated rumor…

I shoulda known.

by BakoCA on Aug 10, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. Nothing can go from NJ to LA.

Only indirectly by giving a fine to the Devils, which would make it almost impossible to get under the cap with Kovalchuk.

by Sydor25 on Aug 10, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

NJ knew exactly what they were doing when they made the rediculous contract, but Bettman has too much of a hard-on for them to even suggest penalties. There is no way that NJ didn’t intend to circumvent the salary cap, but there is no way that they’ll get called on it.

The only thing that would have made sense would be if the team was fined.

by IceNinja on Aug 10, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

"In the Toronto case, a couple of years ago, they docked the team a draft pick, and there was no intent to circumvent at all. That in and of itself is evidence that the intent issue is a non-starter."

I disagree. Just because there was a penalty without intent, it does not mean intent has no bearing when present. In the Toronto case, perhaps lack of intent contributed to the relative severity of the penalty. It could well be, and would make sense if so, that had there been intent the penalty would have been more severe.

End Corporate Personhood.

by Player-X on Aug 10, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

got it, ty

End Corporate Personhood.

by Player-X on Aug 10, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

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