New wrinkle in Kovalchukopia
Kypreos reveals the last Kovy contract numbers - sportsnet.ca
2010-11: $6 million2011-12: $6 million
2012-13: $11 million
2013-14: $11.3 million
2014-15: $11.3 million
2015-16: $11.6 million
2016-17: $11.8 million
2017-18: $10 million
2018-19: $7 million
2020-21: $4 million
2021-22: $1 million
2022-23: $1 million
2023-24: $1 million
2024-25: $3 million
2025-26: $4 million
Let's compare those numbers to my guess from last week:
- 2010 6
- 2011 6
- 2012 9.5
- 2013 9.5
- 2014 9.5
- 2015 9.5
- 2016 9.5
- 2017 9.5
- 2018 8.5
- 2019 8.5
- 2020 5.5
- 2021 2.5
- 2022 2
- 2023 2
- 2024 2
Aside from the fact that the sportsnet numbers give Kovalchuk an entire season off after the ninth year (I assume this is a typo), and the fact that the sportsnet numbers put significant money in the last two years, it's pretty much as I said it would be. Two years of $6MM, followed by six years of peak dollars ($9.5MM in mine, $11.xMM in the "real" deal), followed by a couple of years of steep decline, ending up at a much-sweetened tail (5 years at $2.8MM average in mine; 5 years at $2.2MM in the reported numbers).
What's interesting to me (and I assume a lot of people will be talking about this between now and tomorrow when the verdict is revealed), is those last two years. It's interesting because of what the effect is of weighing down the tail like that. Follow this perverse reasoning:
SPC 1.0 -- the lack of any real salary in the tail helps prove that Kovalchuk has no intention of playing in those final years. Insignificant salary in the tail means Kovalchuk won't play.
SPC 2.0 -- with so much money in the tail after several years of minimal salary, this also can be used to suggest that Kovalchuk has no intention of playing to the end of his contract. (I know; withhold laughter till the end.) Why? Because if you didn't think it was plausible for Kovalchuk to play to 44 for $500,000/yr, you might agree that it's unlikely he'll play from 36-40, through four seasons of making $1MM per year, in order to get to the last two years of $3MM and $4MM respectively.
I've been trying to think of what possible benefit could be derived from structuring those last two years like that. Here's what I came up with:
- It benefits the Devils by deferring a bigger chunk of the deal to later years, when inflation will have chipped away at it. That of course is totally allowed by the CBA. Good business planning.
- It benefits the Devils because $7MM of the deal occurs after the point at which Kovalchuk will likely have retired. If IK retired at 40, under this deal, the Devils save $7MM; if they had done a traditional tail (say, by continuing at $1MM through to the end), their savings would have been $5MM less. Note, this is not cap savings. It's cash savings. Whether this bullet point is allowed by the CBA, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure of one thing, though: the big benefit for the Devils is derived only if he retires before the end of the contract. That's similar to the last deal. But what I'm not sure about: does it give the Devils an unfair advantage, or is it trivial? More on that in a few inches...
Never mind. More on that now.
I understand why the Devils would want the last two years like this, but why would Kovalchuk? After all, that's money he's never going to get. It's basically Kovalchuk giving back $6MM to the Devils (last deal, $1MM over two years; this deal, $7MM). So, the deal structure builds-in a Kovalchuk compromise.
But what's weird about that is, if the Devils are actually going to pay Kovalchuk less, why wouldn't they want to get credit for it by reducing the stated salary in those years so that the cap hit comes down? The cap hit is the prime concern for the Devils. Yet, here they are giving $7MM on paper that they are likely never going to have to pay out; they will pay for it in cap space for the next 10+ years.
It makes absolutely no sense at all. I figured it out.
Kokvalchuk doesn't mind walking away from the actual money, because he knows he likely won't miss it when he gets there. But look at what happens: this deal (1) keeps the actual cost to New Jersey down, while (2) (insanely) keeping their cap hit artificially high, and (3) maintaining the appearance of the $100MM deal.
The Devils are paying extra in cap hit so that Kovalchuk can have the feather in his cap of the $100,000,000 deal. The nine figure deal. He's actually less full of shit than I thought. He's not all about the money. He's all about the appearance of the money.
They could have gone $94MM/15 years, and Lou would have saved himself a $500K cap hit. But it was worth it to them to give Kovalchuk a little extra headline.
The first ten years of the deal went down a bit -- $95MM in 1.0, $89MM in 2.0 -- and that six million was pushed to the back.
I honestly don't know if this oddball accounting is allowed by the CBA. New Jersey is actually artificially driving up its own cap hit, which gives them an unfair disadvantage. I think they're entitled to do this, though. There's nothing in the CBA about protecting clubs from self-inflicted wounds. In terms of how this affects the players' share and escrow, Kovalchuk's salary is actually smaller relative to his cap hit (because his cap hit should be smaller) which means that on balance there's more in the players' share for the other players. Not much more. But probably more than $100 per player, which I'm not prepared to sneeze at. Kovalchuk buys every player in the league a fancy meal, just so he can look like he's getting paid more than he is. That's okay by me.
Remains to be seen how the league will see this -- namely how they will see the single biggest issue, the 15 year term -- but as far as the issue of the big fat tail tip (or whatever it's going to be called from now on), it's kooky but I think it's allowed.
[UPDATE BEFORE I HIT PUBLISH EVEN: it just occurred to me that, because the last two years of the contract are so big, you could make the argument that the exceedingly long term -- 15 years -- also does not give New Jersey an unfair advantage. And for the same reason. The last two years are driving up the cap hit. The whole reason of tacking on the extra years is to drive the cap hit down. If you're not driving it down, you're fundamentally not doing what those other clubs have done re Hossa etc.. If the last two years were $1MM each, for example, they'd have a much more palatable cap hit of $6.33MM. But they're at $6.66MM. Now, if they simply lopped off the last two years, you'd be at $93MM over 13 years, which is a cap hit of more than $7MM, so you can't say New Jersey isn't getting some benefit from the extra two years. But the benefit is about half would it would have been. And that makes comparisons to Hossa et al much stronger than they appeared to be a day ago.]
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Now, if they simply lopped off the last two years, you’d be at $93MM over 13 years, which is a cap hit of more than $7MM, so you can’t say New Jersey isn’t getting some benefit from the extra two years. But the benefit is about half would it would have been. And that makes comparisons to Hossa et al much stronger than they appeared to be a day ago.
And that is the problem with the new tail. It is trying to hide the fact that it is circumvention and I think it is doing a very bad job. Maybe Kovalchuk was willing to go with $93/13, but Lou wants the cap hit under $7 million so he comes up with the new, crazy tail of 1-1-1-3-4. If you take out the last 2 years, the contract is approved since he will be 40 and the contract is closer to Vinny’s.
Maybe it is taking the full 5 days because the league is getting opinions from the other owners and GMs.
One NHL general manager doesn’t believe for a second the league will allow this one to pass either, stating Lou Lamoriello, the Devils and Ilya Kovalchuk are simply trying to “disguise circumvention,” adding, “trying to hide the crime, makes this even worse.”
I agree except that I don't think that they get any advantage from doing this, so it's not a circumvention.
they can still rule that 15 years is a circumvention. but my feeling is they will lose that case if it goes to arbitration.
Wait till this year.
If Kovalchuk intends to retire after 10 years, just like the first contract, than adding five years to lower the cap hit from $9 million to $6.6 million is circumventing the CBA. I would think the first contract could be used to show the intention of the parties involved.
Forgot to add...
Don’t forget that this is the second contract for the same parties. I think that is a very important part of this decision for the NHL. It’s not like Hossa tried a 14-year deal first and then signed the 12-year deal.
If this was the first submitted contract, it probably gets registered. NJ is in this mess because of the absurd 17-year deal that they tried.
Just to clarify my own position
The reason I think the NHLPA would have a better case in arbitration (and should be able to win), is that they have (presumably) addressed all the issues raised by the last hearing, leaving only the length as the last sticking point, and since they’re using Hossa as a benchmark, it will be much harder for the league to argue that the contract is demonstrably different from those other deals.
Last time around, the fact that one could demonstrate significant difference between the IK deal and Hossa et al was a huge part of the league’s case. That’s been significantly whittled down here.
This last-two-years wrinkle is interesting because (1) it just looks like they’re up to something, but (2) what they’re up to is gaming the system in reverse, and I think they can make a pretty persuasive case that it gives them no advantage, so it’s not a circumvention.
The only actual advantage it gives them is that it allows them to sign Kovalchuk because he’s crazy and is willing to be paid in perception rather than actual dollars.
I think you’re right about what you say re if this were this first contract. And I genuinely don’t know how the whole “but we know they were trying to game the system because of last time” argument will/would play out. It’s true of course that he’s not going to play till he’s 42. But without the marked differences between Kovalchuk and Hossa and company, the case is much worse.
Wait till this year.
This new tail strikes me as very cynical
And cynical in a very juvenile sort of way. That is, NJD/Team IK got smacked down on SPC 1.0 because of one particular feature — the tail, which tailed off so dramatically. So in SPC 2.0, they make it a point of doing the opposite in an exaggerated away. Kind of like when your parents tell you to sit up straight, and you sit with your back like a ramrod and your chin way up and out, so that you look like a dork and everyone in the restaurant will stare at you. And you do it precisely because you know that it will embarrass your parents, and you want to get even with them for telling you what to do.
Reminds me of elementary school science class.
As always Quisp, great analysis.
This contract is the “Ankylosaurus” of NHL contracts.
A Gaseous, Plated Plodder
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/agifs/Ankyl_bw.GIF
gKg!
I dunno dudes
If I were Bettman I would smack Lou down on principle alone on this one.
I mean … really? …
I’d be that parent (to use your analogy) that looks at the child and says… “yeah… ok, I see that you’re cleaning up your room.. but your still shoving everything under the bed..”
denied beeyach
In related news:
I’ve read and commented in most of these…sooooo yeah.
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
This reminds me of a friend of mine who I used to play arcade games with in college
we would go to this one video (/pinball) arcade, we would go three or four times a week, and once he pointed out some guy and said, “Man that guy’s got a problem! He is here all the time!”
Wait till this year.
As Kings’ fans, we’re just having a hard time breaking up with Kovy. He’s a heartbreaker, dream-taker. (Sorry, just heard that song on the radio.) Plus it’s summer and there’s jack-shit else going on.
Correct me if I'm wrong but...
Isn’t there a cap for player’s earnings per season, ’cause I thought a player cannot earn more than 11.5MM in ANY season of a SPC?
is it just me
or is it starting to look more appealing to try to nix Hossa’s deal and take away the Blackhawks’ Cup? maybe it’s just the midnight in Rhode Island talking, or the frustration with this whole thing (really? are we really trying to instill in people the mentality of “if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying”?), but i would certainly be entertained if Bettman / the NHL brought the hammer down.
Did it really take more than 2 weeks to come up with this contract structure?
I’ve seen better structures by fans in the message boards.
A picture is worth a thousand words.

This is all you need to show the arbitrator. Can you see where Kovalchuk will retire? Looks the same to me.
It seems to meet the required criteria for everyone.
Kovalchuk signs a 100M$ contract.
Kovalchuk makes more than anyone probably ever will in one year.
Lou gets a cap hit under 7M$. (more like 6.8 it seems is the goal)
The circumvention isn’t as bad as hossa’s (Though its very close.)
This also brings an interesting point. Lou, being lou, might have inside information on whatever the NHL is going to do to close the loophole in two years, and those last two years may soften the blow of whatever the new rule might be.
Also, to the point of you writing 101 articles on kovalchuk, that totally should be the blog headline. That or “KOVALCHUK KOVALCHUK KOVALCHUK (Oh, and the Kings too)”
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Well, personally, I’m not worried as much about Kovalchuk not playing out his contract. We’ve seen a number of examples where players wouldn’t stop playing hockey until no one would sign them anymore, and if kovalchuk thinks he’ll be like Mark Recchi, who am i to dispute this.
However, the previous contract gave the devils a pretty serious out, and that was more suspicious than anything else
Any comment on my crazy theory about Lou having an idea about how this loophole will be closed in the next CBA? I find it kind of interesting that the tail structure is 1/1/1/3/4 instead of 2/2/2/2/2… You could say the devils want to save a few bucks but i don’t think that’s it.
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
I think it has to do with the Devils cash issues
like buying a big TV with no payments for two years.
I think if the devils thought there would be some kind of “out” in two years, grossman would have never gone for it.
Wait till this year.
Yeah, that seems to be why there are the first two years at 6M$ for sure.
I wonder sometimes if the rumor that kovalchuk fears another salary rollback inflated his demands is true, though logically this seems doubtful (great negotiating tool though!) The 1/1/1/3/4 tail is still kind of odd though, did the nhl reject 2/2/2/2/2 or something?
On the Mike Weber bandwagon.
Everything wrong with the Sabres is Drew Stafford's fault.
Daly & the NHL have already said that the Hossa contract is not the "line".
How can they accept a contract that is worst?
The line is Vinny’s contract and Daly confirmed that the NHL has no problem with his contact. That would put the “line” for long-term contracts at 40 and a tail of 2-3 years.
The NHLPA already argued that the Hossa contract was already accepted and Kovalchuk’s should be too. The arbitrator agreed with the NHL argument and even sighted those contacts as suspicious and under investigation by the NHL.
If the league wants to follow what they have been saying publicly, they would reject this contract and let an arbitrator decide if this is close enough to other contracts to be acceptable.
Hasnt it been shown on this board how this Kovalchuk 2.0 SPC is not worse than Hossa’s deal?
I think what Lou is doing with this contract, other than specifically addressing Bloch’s concerns, is using the likelihood of Hossa’s contract being rescinded, against the NHL. If contract 2.0 is rejected, wouldn’t the NHL be ‘forced’ into doing the same with Hossa’s contract? We all know the NHL will not be doing that being that Hossa has played a year (a Stanley Cup winning year) under said contract, and therefore, Hossa’s will not be rescinded.
I do agree with DougX’s comments, I think he is thumbing his nose at the NHL, but he also addressed the issues the arbitrator levied against contract 1.0.
"Don't worry about my Cap." - Lou Lamoriello
The NHL has actually hurt themselves by saying the Lecavalier contract is OK. If NHL doesn’t think Lecavalier will retire at age 37 or 38 they can’t think Kovalchuk will retire at 37 or 38.
This now limits the NHL to only be able to challenge the last 2 years. Which is why the salary raises. By doing that Team Lou is basically saying those last 2 years are there because Kovalchuk really wants to/believes he can play till 42. Lou can now argue that he is losing money just to prove that he is not trying to circumvent the cap.
But the thing is
I just don’t see the man being worth a $100m contract, regardless. Does this mean filler players like Randy Jones, Brad Richardson, Modine or Brian Wilsey is worth $5.5M per year or $200,000 per year going forward?
How can teams in the future even plan on signing more then two, perhaps three decent players?
After years of stellar service to the Game and nearing retirement it seems LL decided to leave the NHL a going away present; a skate up it’s behind.
pretty hard to determine who is “worth” a $100M contract. But he is/was the most prolific UFA in the NHL’s modern history.
I dont get the issue with determining what other players are worth?
"Don't worry about my Cap." - Lou Lamoriello
i agree – it doesn’t really seem our place to determine IK’s worth. let NJD/IK agree on any number they want short of 11.8. JUST QUIT CHEATING ON THE FRICKIN CAP HIT!
by Luuuuuuuuuuc! on Sep 1, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with USHA to the extent that trying to fit an entire team’s salaries underneath the cap is kind of like squeezing a water balloon, in that there will always be pressure somewhere threatening to burst the thing, and it’s just a matter of how the water is distributed within the balloon. Give more to one guy, and there’s less for everyone else. Or that’s the way it’s supposed to work, and would work except for these long-tail contracts that circumvent the cap.
Team depth matters in hockey more than in any other major sport because pretty much everyone plays in a game. Therefore, skimping on some roster spots because you have loaded too much salary into one roster spot does have consequences. And it should be possible to quantify that somehow. Because of the salary cap, we can’t blithely say that Kovalchuk is worth whatever someone is willing to pay him; there is a point at which he would theoretically take away money that ought to be spent bolstering other roster spots.
Absolutely agree with what you’re saying, but that would be Lou’s responsibility, not the league. If he wants to pay Kovy some exorbitant amount then have at it. Who is the league or anyone else to stop him. But he better pay for it in full. One reason why it just makes sense to me to get rid of the cap hit as an average over the life of a contract, and instead make the cap hit equal the cash hit.
by Luuuuuuuuuuc! on Sep 1, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
DougX, thank you. You articulated my concerns and thoughts perfectly.
Being old school I look at this these matters and feel the a player’s value is based upon helping a team, not size of contract. More help, bigger contract. Who has Ilya helped?
Luuuuuuuc!, as you say, it’s NJ’s option to dance with this guy but I have to add, “however much this serves to diminish the game and distort future contract values”.
The last time this happened was Lowe’s signing Penner. Now ask yourself if that is part of the problem trying to sign impact players these days.
Do you really want NJ changing the rules so we end up watching one line games with large talent drop after the top 3? Might just as well watch minor league hockey.
Quisp, this should help you understand FriedmanHNIC tweet:
1st tweet:
FriedmanHNIC Prediction: If NHL rejects Kovalchuk deal, NHLPA grieves once again — trying a different arbitrator. Headline in summer of 2015…
2nd tweet:
FriedmanHNIC “Devils, Kovalchuk submit another offer for approval.”
I’m going to assume you spelling his name “Kokvalchuk” at one point was a mistake. Albeit, a hilarious mistake.
www.prosportsblogging.com
by Great Ice-Pectations on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions
I see this being accepted by the league. Does it circumvent, absolutely, realistically any contract that lowers the cap hit in any way is a circumvention, but it is what it is, stupid NHL should have never left it so open in the CBA in the first place, and hopefully the new CBA will be more concrete.
I'm sticking with
if the league in fact told them they would accept 15 under certain conditions, they will approve
if the league in fact told them they would frown upon 15, they will reject
either way, i would bet this contract stands, because i think they have a better shot in arb this time.
Wait till this year.
When I saw this the first thing that came to mind is the fight over 13 vs. 15 years. The league was trying to press them into it. But the Devils want 15, so they make sure that salary at the end is higher; this addresses Bloch’s concerns about creating an incentive for Kovalchuk to retire early.
It does leave them with a lot of artificial weirdness to explain in years 38-40, though. Do they really think that his services at that point in his career should be worth less than what he can offer a team when he’s 41 and 42? There’s no rational explanation for that spike at the end, aside from the fact that they were attempting a different kind of creative manipulation. But it could work.
Personally, I think they should be allowed to have a Hossa-like 15 year deal. This deal is just an odd way to go about it. But they let Hossa’s go through, much as I wish they hadn’t…so there’s only so far you can push the rewind button, IMO.
In Dinglebarn We Trust
In all seriousness, what right do you have to tell Quisp what to post and what not to post? What gives you that authority, moral, legal or otherwise?
you're like a dog who hides with his big juicy bone because he knows the humans all really want it.
I don’t want your bone.
Did you notice that this post is all about how he’s likely to go to the Devils? Does anyone seem especially broken up about it? Before all this, Kings fans were split pretty evenly on whether Kovalchuk would be good for the Kings. Over the last two months, the number of Kings fans who want Kovalchuk has dwindled to the point that I rarely see anyone espousing that POV. And I’m quite sure no-one who previously wasn’t into him and come around and become a supporter as a result of all this.
The reason I post about the Kovalchuk situation is that the CBA is important. I know you only really care about whether he comes to New Jersey or not, but that’s not everyone’s interest. Frankly, I will see the Devils one or two times a year, and that’s about the same for most Eastern teams. Where Kovalchuk signs has very small impact on the Kings or my experience of the season. But what happens to this contract ought to be of interest to everybody.
I think it’s funny that even when I argue your own point of view for you, you object. It’s too bad the ILWT isn’t doing more objective analysis on this topic. I’m sure a lot of people would welcome it. That’s probably one of the reasons the readership of this blog has tripled in the last few weeks.
Wait till this year.
Mutually agreed on deadline extension until Friday.
According to TSN. This thing really doesn’t want to end, lol.












