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Riddle: When can the goalie cross-check you in the head and it's not a penalty?

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One of these nights, maybe before the end of this regular season, probably in a game when the second point will not be so vital, a goaltender is going to run an opponent. The shootout participant will be someone like Jason Blake or Mason Raymond or Mikhail Grabovski, one of the growing number of forwards to score over the last year utilizing the Spin-o-Rama. He'll skate toward the goal and prepare to stop on a dime a few inches inside the crease. Just as Blake and Raymond and Grabovski, Todd Bertuzzi, Pierre-Marc Bouchard and others have done, the shooter will have his head down momentarily as he stops and prepares to spin. (Watch the videos: few have pulled off the move with their head up all the way). In some NHL rink, a goaltender is going to take one bold step for the rest of his fraternity. In a pre-meditated, but non-violent fashion, the goalie is going to send one of the Spin-o-Rama boys on his rear end.

It may cost his team a point in the standings. It may cost the goaltender some money, but it will have been worth it.

I will go a little further. I don't think it's against the rules. In fact, I'm sure (unless there's some corner of the rule book I don't know about) it's allowed. If the goalie is not making illegal contact (e.g. check to the head, cross-checking, elbowing), I don't see any reason why the goalie can't knock down the guy with the puck if the guy decides to stop with his head down two feet in front of him.

And, even better, even if the goalie does check the guy illegally -- say, by cross-checking him -- it's not even a penalty. Check it out:

NHL Rule Book 25.4 - Violations During the [penalty] Shot

When an infraction worthy of a minor penalty is committed by the goalkeeper during the penalty shot that causes the shot to fail, no penalty is to be assessed but the Referee shall permit the shot to be taken over again. Should a goalkeeper commit a second violation during the penalty shot and the shot fails, he shall be assessed a misconduct penalty and the Referee shall permit the penalty shot to be taken over again. A third such violation shall result in the goalkeeper being assessed a game misconduct penalty. When a major or match penalty is committed by the goalkeeper that causes the shot to fail, the Referee shall permit the shot to be taken over again and the appropriate penalties shall be assessed to the goalkeeper.

The goalkeeper may attempt to stop the shot in any manner except by throwing his stick or any object, or by deliberately dislodging the goal, in which case a goal shall be awarded.

To sum up: goalie can do anything except throw his stick or knock the net off. And any otherwise illegal contact, which would normally result in a penalty, is at worst a do-over. (though, I guess by the third offense of the second goalie -- at which point they both would have been tossed -- you would run out of goalies.)

Can't wait.

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by SPADE-IN-VICTORHELL on Jan 13, 2011 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

A goalie’s not going to check a guy (because he’s leaving the bottom of the net open in case the puck rolls in) but there’s nothing really stopping him from just diving out and tripping the shit out of him. Ref’s not going to call that. It’s the same thing whenever a guy tries a Michigan and I the goaltender punches him in the face.

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by RudyKelly on Jan 13, 2011 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

what’s a michigan?

by hughestom1 on Jan 13, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

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by RudyKelly on Jan 13, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It should happen to Corey Perry in revenge for all those goalie runs he’s made over the years. At least do it once to him.

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by Niesy on Jan 13, 2011 5:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ask Hextal what he thinks about all of this….

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by USHA#17 on Jan 13, 2011 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

can we suit up Hextall for just a game?

I hate this spinorama bullshit. I thought once the shooter moves ahead of the puck, the attempt is done? when they spin they technically have the puck behind them while the move forward, shouldn’t they attempt be canceled?

Not to sure on the rules, but I hate the shootout. skills competition should not be deciding factor. then again the NHL seems to have become about ratings and money versus the sport itself.

by IamTheWarlus on Jan 14, 2011 9:10 AM PST reply actions  

Not when the shooter moves ahead of the puck, no

otherwise the infamous backwards Marty St. Louis shootout goal would’ve been voided.

Instead, I believe the rules state it’s illegal for the puck to move away from the goal line apart from in the case of a spin-o-rama (I think there’s another exception, but I can’t remember what it is). So technically, this shouldn’t’ve been allowed.

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by Germware on Jan 14, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe its more left to the referee’s discretion – as long as you’re not stalling the play or doing it as your actual move to beat the goaltender, its ok. Keep in mind, just your basic dribbling or dekeing often pulls the puck backwards too – if we were going to be Nazis about it, no one would make it to the blue line.

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by IAmJoe on Jan 15, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Rule 25.2
The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Jan 17, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

The entire goalie fraternity would love to see something put an end to spin-o-ramas, michigans, and now people trying to shoot the puck from behind the net off the back of the goalies helmet.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jan 14, 2011 11:28 AM PST reply actions  

Well, I recall that Gretzky used to intentionally try to bank the puck off the back of the goalie, and no one ever seemed to hold it against him. Of course, AFAIK, I don’t recall that he ever tried to use the helmet.

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by DougX on Jan 14, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy there, Tim Thomas…

by NJSheed on Jan 14, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

As a goaltender, I would do this, even if it resulted in a goal.

by errathofkosh on Jan 14, 2011 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

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