I count 24 players on the Kings roster

by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 2:47 PM PDT

Fraser ready for opportunity " LA Kings Insider

Fraser has been skating since camp opened and was recently cleared for full practices, including contact. I caught up with him today to ask about his status, and then asked Terry Murray about his plans for Fraser…

FRASER: "I feel great, really. I feel ready to go, but it’s not really up to me. It’s up to the coaches and management and stuff. I’ve got enough practices in now, and enough bag skates to get in shape and stuff like that. I’ll continue to work hard and continue to do what I need to do in order to get better every day and hopefully get an opportunity here sometime soon.’’

Question: Are you totally cleared to play?

FRASER: "Yeah, I’m cleared by the doctor."

That sounds to me like Colin Fraser is about to leave the land of "Injured Non-Roster." Which will give the Kings 15 forwards, 7 defensemen and 2 goalies. There aren't any waiver-exempt forwards to send down (unless you want to send down Kyle Clifford...). Who gets waived?

Or is there a trade coming?

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“Waive” bye bye to Fraser! (sorry)

(Also on LaKingsInsider Fraser told Murray that he was cleared and Murray responded “OK, I’ll pass that along”)

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by Nut on Oct 12, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions

I don’t read too much into that. Really, Murray has made clear in his time with the Kings that he leaves personnel moves like call-ups and stuff to management and DL without really getting involved unless asked. He mentioned earlier in the quote that he is on IR and I’m pretty sure meant it as he can’t play him as long as he’s still on IR and it is up to DL and the medical staff when he comes off IR. Once that happens, then he can have the option of playing him or not but until them it isn’t even an option.

by GoKings09 on Oct 12, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Fraser isn't/wasn't on IR; he's designated Injured Non-Roster

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by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions

And here are Murray’s thoughts, when it was mentioned that Fraser said he’s ready to go…
MURRAY: "Yes, but he’s on the I.R."

Well that was the quote that Rich had from Murray

by GoKings09 on Oct 12, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions

From TM’s point of view, I would guess that the distinction is purely technical. It’s Dean’s job to concern himself with the difference between IR and Injured Non-Roster; all the Head Coach needs to know is that Fraser isn’t available to him.

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by DougX on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Lets cut the cruft

I’d say we lose Fraser and Parse.

by ClashCityKing on Oct 12, 2011 2:54 PM PDT reply actions

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Oct 12, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Hunter will get waived

by Kingsfan99 on Oct 12, 2011 3:34 PM PDT reply actions

According to Hammond, Hunter is in the lineup tomorrow.

Parse and Westgarth are sitting. Plus, no way do the Kings sign Hunter and then waive him 2 games into the season. He’s a better depth forward than Fraser and will be on the third line.

Fraser is still on IR, but will be waived when he is due to come off.

by Sydor25 on Oct 12, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Plus, you have to remember that Hunter got a spot with the idea that he’ll better in game 82 than game 1. He hasn’t looked good because he’s coming back from major knee surgery; hopefully he’ll look better down the line. If he doesn’t, well, it’s not that hard to find a 3rd liner at the trade deadline.

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by RudyKelly on Oct 12, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

How close are the Kings to the 50 contract limit

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by Niesy on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM PDT reply actions

1 Over

They added Stephan Legein this afternoon.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Oct 12, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t think that’s right…hmm

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by Niesy on Oct 12, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Could it be more?

by defrim65 on Oct 12, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks for taking him

the Flyers can now keep Couturier up all season long, as opposed to the free 9 game stint he was going to have before going back to juniors because we were at the 50 contract limit.

Can’t wait till the Kings/Flyers game.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions

You’re welcome!

Also, we’re going to fuck you up.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

I am actually a fan of both teams. The Flyers are my first love and always will be because I grew up with them, but the Kings are a close second. I moved to SD a few years ago and one of my best friends is a huge Kings fan and so I have been watching them for the last few years with him. Now that Richie, who is my favorite hockey player, is a King, I am on board. I hope they meet each other in the SC Finals at the end of the year. It should be a good game.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions

I watched the home opener last night, thanks to the Center Ice free preview period, and the Philly announcing team started ticking off all of the ex-Flyers now part of the Kings, from the front office down, and I think it was Bill Clement who remarked that it’s going to feel like a homecoming game. :-)

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by DougX on Oct 13, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah

we joke about the Kings being our Philly West team. I really like the non-Philly guys too. Simmer was my favorite King last year, and now he is my favorite Flyer. It’s only been 3 games, but he is killing it on the top PP unit for us. Prongs goal last night was because of Simmer screnning Luongo, he never saw the shot. Too bad Simmer doesn’t get any credit for it on the stats sheet.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions

SD! Woooooooooooooooooooo! There are actually quite a few of us puckheads in The Dirty Waffle. A good Philly Dive Bar in my neck of the woods is The Tilted Stick. Also, check out the Stout Public House down in the Gaslamp. It’s the area’s preeminent hockey bar, which is sadly owned by Canucks fans.

I find the three best Cheesesteak places in the city are Gaglione Brothers, The Philadelphia Sandwich Co, and Voltero’s Pizza. Check them out and let me know what you think.

Looking forward to the Kings dominate tonight and on Saturday!

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 13, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions

I literally live right across the street from the Gaglione’s in Point Loma. Good stuff. Haven’t made it to the Philadelphia Sandwich Co yet, but I have heard good things. I will have to look into the Tilted Stick.

Have you had Jersey Mike’s yet. Best East Coast style subs I have found out here. Try the #13, Mike’s way with pickles and cherry pepper relish.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Philly West, on Westwood Bl. south of Santa Monica Bl. in WLA

sports bar, great cheese steak, been around since before I moved here, which was…1983.

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by Quisp on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions

My Kings fan buddy moved up to LA just recently, when I go visit we will have to check that out.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions

Also, check out the Stout Public House down in the Gaslamp. It’s the area’s ~~preeminent~~ hockey bar

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Oct 13, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

If it happens to be the only one, then Stout House can be the preeminent hockey bar by default, amiright? The closest competition would probably be Cheswick’s West, Nick’s at the Pier, True North, or the parking lot outside of Skate San Diego.

Gaslamp is all about hype and over selling, anyways…

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Also Kristie’s on Ingraham but it’s a little…interesting

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by Nut on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Kristi’s on Midway, right? That’s within walking distance of anyone who lives close to Gaglione Brothers.

The hostess/owner there is a bit of an…eccentric.

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions

As a hockey fan

I will take what I can get and if I only have 1 bar to choose from, so be it. Rec’d.

by The Reddgie on Oct 13, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions

we're at 48

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by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m pretty sure it’ll be Fraser.

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by VoluminousTuna on Oct 12, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions

Well I vote for Westgarth but it will probably be Fraser. If it’s Parse I will be sad.

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by Robert_P. on Oct 12, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

There’s just no way to know what Fraser even brings. Who knows if he had been healthy if Hunter would’ve made the team. Fraser’s younger and seems to bring a similar game. WIsh we could have seen what he could bring in camp.

by Uni on Oct 12, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions

Difference is Dean never wanted Fraser, was forced to take him. Not sure he’ll care too much what he brings unless he’s killing it in practice.

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by Nut on Oct 12, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

we're over the 50 contract limit

Why the deuce did we make that trade with philly then??

by lnickerson88 on Oct 12, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

I have the Kings at 48 contracts by using Cap Geek.

I’m sure Quisp will update the contract count post soon, but I count 48 contracts for the Kings right now.

With Tofolii and Andreoff are back in juniors, I believe they don’t count against the 50 contract limit.

by Sydor25 on Oct 12, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I think that’s correct

Can’t see DL doing a favor that would put his own club over the limit.

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by Niesy on Oct 12, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I would be surprised if League rules even allow you to make a deal that would put you over the contract limit; you’d have to clear room before you made the deal, not after you put yourself over the limit.

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by DougX on Oct 12, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions

that's right; any deal you make that puts you over the limit is void

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by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions

exactly

actually, it’s roach, toffoli and weal who are signed but don’t count against the 50 contract limit because they are 18 or 19 years old. Andreoff does count against the limit because he’s 20. 51 contracts minus the three is 48. i.e. what you said.

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by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

51 I think.

Capgeek has exactly 50 listed, without Czarnik who just signed, listed.

by defrim65 on Oct 12, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Jake Muzzin is on I.R. so that means 50 temporarily.

by defrim65 on Oct 12, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I think.

by defrim65 on Oct 12, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

muzzin is off-ir and is in manchester; and you still count against the limit when you're IR, so it wouldn't matter

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by Quisp on Oct 12, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Yea, I wasn’t quite sure if all those listed counted, or if if Muzz (who was listed) could be counted out. Czarnik wasn’t listed, does he count?

by defrim65 on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Think it will be a twofer. Parse and Fraser will go. Of Hunter & Moreau… have not seen enough of either to judge.

Here is one:
Legein is already in Manchester.
Parse waived.
Westbrook packaged with Fraser for a pick and a future?
Hunter/Moreau given a 3rd line slot
Vey or Loktionov moves up.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Oct 12, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

Parse will be kept for depth. Westgarth just signed an extension, he’s not being traded. Hunter will be on the 3rd line against NJ. Loktionov will stay in Manchester unless Kopitar or Richards get hurt.

Westgarth will probably be back in the lineup against Philly.

by Sydor25 on Oct 12, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Per Hammond, Parse is “NOT” [my emphasis] in the lineup tomorrow, nor is he going to be a healthy scratch. Which, I guess, means IR or waiver-land.

by m_and_m on Oct 12, 2011 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

I think Hammond meant to write that he is slotted to be a healthy scratch. Otherwise his sentence doesn’t make sense.

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by RudyKelly on Oct 12, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm guessing it is a typo and Hammond meant to write, "now" instead of "not"

Hammond wrote:
“After two games in Europe, during which Parse didn’t exactly distinguish himself, he’s
not slotted to be a healthy scratch tomorrow night against New Jersey.”

Put “now” there instead and it makes sense.

by Sydor25 on Oct 12, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks for the clarification, Quisp

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by DodgerBlueBalls on Oct 12, 2011 9:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Mulletgate

Was it ever resolved? I never saw anything about Bettman’s decision and internet searches are not particularly helpful. I figured I would have seen stories here and PD but don’t recall having done so. Any insight would be much appreciated.

by Garrett79 on Oct 12, 2011 9:37 PM PDT reply actions