Kings' Prospects Stats - Monday 10/24/11

by Quisp on Oct 24, 2011 11:13 AM PDT

Here are the updated numbers. For reference, here is the www.behindthenet table ratios/conversion rates:

League Translations: how do other leagues stack up against the NHL?

Russian Elite League 0.83

Swedish Elite League 0.78

Czech Republic League 0.74

Finland SM-Liiga 0.54

Deutsche Eishockey League 0.52 [...]

AHL 0.44 [...]

Switzerland National League 0.44

NCAA 0.41

Canadian Major Junior 0.30

The idea being, for example, that one goal in NCAA is the rough equivalent, in terms of difficulty, of 0.41 goals in the NHL. Obviously, there's lots of room to disagree with the specific numbers, but I'm willing to play along.

I am using the behindthenet numbers as a way to list all of the Kings prospects in one sortable stat sheet. If you think the equivalencies are bunk, then just sort by the league column.

I added two new columns: '10-'11, which gives the player's PPG for the previous season, provided that he played in the same league as this year; and up/down, which subtracts last year's PPG from this year's.

			GP	G	A	Pts	PTs/G	10-'11	up/down	Diff.	NHL Eq
Andrei Loktionov	Manchester	AHL	8	3	8	11	1.375	0.911	0.464	0.44	0.605
Tyler Toffoli	Ottawa 67s	OHL	10	8	12	20	2.000	1.588	0.412	0.30	0.600
Bud Holloway	Skelleftea AIK	SEL	14	4	4	8	0.571	n/a	n/a	0.78	0.446
Oscar Moller	Skelleftea AIK	SEL	14	4	4	8	0.571	n/a	n/a	0.78	0.446
Viatcheslav Voynov	Manchester	AHL	2	1	1	2	1.000	0.671	0.329	0.44	0.440
Jordan Weal	Regina Pats	WHL	12	6	11	17	1.417	1.333	0.084	0.30	0.425
Corey Elkins	Pardubice HC	CZE	13	3	4	7	0.538	n/a	n/a	0.74	0.398
Jake Muzzin	Manchester	AHL	6	3	2	5	0.833	0.440	0.393	0.44	0.367
David Kolomatis	Manchester	AHL	5	1	3	4	0.800	0.400	0.400	0.44	0.352
Andy Andreoff	Oshawa Generals	OHL	6	3	4	7	1.167	1.136	0.031	0.30	0.350
Marc-Andre Cliche	Manchester	AHL	8	4	2	6	0.750	0.556	0.194	0.44	0.330
Nicholas Shore	Denver	NCAA	4	1	2	3	0.750	0.545	0.205	0.41	0.308
Michael Schumacher	Soo Greyhounds	OHL	13	9	4	13	1.000	n/a	n/a	0.30	0.300
David Meckler	Manchester	AHL	8	3	2	5	0.625	0.440	0.185	0.44	0.275
Ray Kaunisto	Manchester	AHL	8	1	4	5	0.625	0.246	0.379	0.44	0.275
Linden Vey	Manchester	AHL	7	1	3	4	0.571	n/a	n/a	0.44	0.251
Justin Azevedo	Manchester	AHL	8	3	1	4	0.500	0.671	-0.171	0.44	0.220
Jordan Nolan	Manchester	AHL	8	1	3	4	0.500	0.227	0.273	0.44	0.220
Patrick Mullen	Manchester	AHL	8	0	4	4	0.500	0.299	0.201	0.44	0.220
Nic Dowd	St. Cloud State	NCAA	6	3	0	3	0.500	0.500	0.000	0.41	0.205
Michael Mersch	Wisconsin	NCAA	6	2	1	3	0.500	0.463	0.037	0.41	0.205
Rich Clune	Manchester	AHL	7	2	1	3	0.429	0.333	0.096	0.44	0.189
Andrew Campbell	Manchester	AHL	8	0	3	3	0.375	0.158	0.217	0.44	0.165
Derek Forbort	UND	NCAA	6	1	1	2	0.333	0.395	-0.062	0.41	0.137
Brandon Kozun	Manchester	AHL	7	1	1	2	0.286	0.658	-0.372	0.44	0.126
Maxim Kitsyn	Novokuznetsk Metallurg	KHL	14	1	1	2	0.143	n/a	n/a	0.83	0.119
Thomas Hickey	Manchester	AHL	8	0	2	2	0.250	0.312	-0.062	0.44	0.110
Stefan Legein	Manchester	AHL	5	0	1	1	0.200	0.415	-0.215	0.44	0.088
Alex Roach	Calgary Hitmen	WHL	8	0	2	2	0.250	0.262	-0.012	0.30	0.075
Dwight King	Manchester	AHL	8	0	1	1	0.125	0.722	-0.597	0.44	0.055
Kevin Gravel	St. Cloud State	NCAA	6	0	0	0	0.000	0.167	-0.167	0.41	0.000
Nicolas Deslauriers	Manchester	AHL	5	0	0	0	0.000	n/a	n/a	0.44	0.000
Joel Lowry	Cornell	NCAA	0	0	0	0	0.000	n/a	n/a	0.41	0.000

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On Toffoli...

… I maintain that CHL stats have to be adjusted on a year-by-year basis. There’s a bigger discrepancy between players in junior due to maturity / physical development than there is later on.

by shm5555 on Oct 24, 2011 12:06 PM PDT reply actions

WTF is up with Kozun, King, and Kitsyn?

Pick your game up, boys.

by BobKnob on Oct 24, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions

For Kitsyn, playing in the KHL is a big difference. Younger players aren’t given as much time since there are older players with more experience. In his previous 70 games experience in the KHL, he had 9 goals in 70 games before putting up 9 in just 32 games in the OHL last year and another 10 in just 20 playoff games. Not knowing how many minutes he is playing or if he gets any PP time, it is hard to judge his game really being so far away.

by GoKings09 on Oct 24, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions

The KHL is the second best league in the world

And he’s 20… He’s promising sure, but there’s a reason he’s a 6th round pick… Plus, vets get the nod more than youngsters over there, they have the MHL for the youngsters… Unless of course, you’re Vladimir Tarasenko…

King and Kozun will get going soon enough…

One sword keeps another in the sheath.

by Paul Udani on Oct 24, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions