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So, if Doughty is suspended for the Oshie hit, who gets called up?

ST. LOUIS, MO - NOVEMBER 22: T.J. Oshie #74 of the St. Louis Blues is pushed to the ice by Drew Doughty #8 of the Los Angeles Kings at the Scottrade Center on November 22, 2011 in St. Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

I think he'll get a couple of games. 

If Doughty is going to sit, do they call up Jake Muzzin? Thomas Hickey? Or just insert Davis Drewiske? I guess you'd go back to Johnson - Scuderi, keep Mitchell - Voynov as a pair, and go with Drewiske/Muzzin/Hickey - Matt Greene. I would love to see Hickey, really. Not going to happen, but I would love it. 

What do you think?

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Didn't see the hit but if he does get canned for a few games...

This is the best time for a Hickey… I mean Thomas Hickey… He’s an puck moving D-man as well, so he makes the most sense…

First of all, nobody's ever thought that. Ever.
You're more than welcome to #Occupymybed

by Paul Udani on Nov 22, 2011 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

I didn't see it either

But I’d say it depends on the length. Just one game, I think Drewiske gets thrown a consolation prize. Bringing someone out from Manchester for only a few days seems like a bit much. Two games, then you’re talking about a trip of about a week; then it’s worth bringing someone out.

I agree that Hickey makes sense, and I’d like to see him get the call.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Nov 22, 2011 11:19 PM PST reply actions  

Almost definitely gonna be a suspension.

It was exactly the hit the NHL is cracking down on- cross check into the numbers 3 feet from the boards and with 2 seconds left it was pretty stupid, to boot.

That having been said I would be a little surprised to see Hickey get the call this time because Voynov is already in the line-up and I just can’t see Lombardi-Murray using two rookie defensemen in an early pivotal division game. They’ll put in the known commodity, Whiskey.

I hope I’m wrong, but I expect Hickey to have to wait a bit longer.

by Garrett79 on Nov 23, 2011 1:41 AM PST reply actions  

I Don't Think He'll Be Suspended

The hit looked worse than it actually was. It looked to me to more of a shove than anything else – the type of play you see all the time, but Oshie took a nasty looking spill, because he hadn’t braced for it. But apparently he’s okay, the call on the ice was only 2 minutes (although with 1.5 seconds to go, it didn’t matter how it was for) and was correct. Saw them debate it on TSN this morning, and the consensus was a fine if anything.

Now, if he is suspended (and with Shanahan, it could easily happen), if it’s only one game, then it will be Drewiskie, as there’s no time to get anyone else to Dallas, since they play again tonight. And if it’s two games, I still don’t think they’ll call anyone up, since the callup would likely only be for one game. Personally, I think they’ll stick with Drewiskie if Doughty gets suspended.

by Hoolie on Nov 23, 2011 7:11 AM PST reply actions  

This wasn't even noticeable enough to get a Shannaban post on Puck Daddy

So my guess is that he won’t be suspended, especially as a penalty was given anyway.

Still, boneheaded move by DD.

by shm5555 on Nov 23, 2011 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, Suspension Unlikely

Otherwise, Muzzin (with Drewiske getting the minutes).

by Lars H on Nov 23, 2011 7:20 AM PST reply actions  

I’ve seen worse hits skate, my bet is a fine only. But to answer your question, if he is suspended I would expect the Kings to just go with Drewiske since I wouldn’t expect it to be more than two games.

by m_and_m on Nov 23, 2011 7:34 AM PST reply actions  

Division game…Drewiske if a suspension…WTF is with Doughty? Not wasting time developing a jacket.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Nov 23, 2011 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

May be a blessing if he has to sit a game. He is clearly pressing, and that hit was a symptom.

by m_and_m on Nov 23, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Stupid hit

Absolutely a fine but would also like to see a suspension, if just for one game. A lot of raw talent with Doughty but he needs to get his head in the game… a suspension could be a good thing.
Would be a huge blow to Wiske’s ego if he didn’t get the chance. Plus, I thought he played well with Greene in the past.

by WildKaRD on Nov 23, 2011 9:21 AM PST reply actions  

I think you bring up T Hickey. See what he looks like at the NHL level. You already know what you have with Muzzin and Drewiske.

Plus, Hickey fits the pattern of puck mover paired with stay at home d-man (Greene)

by Kingsfan99 on Nov 23, 2011 9:36 AM PST reply actions  

Hell, he makes more taking a sjower

A cross check shove to the numbers. Bad play on Doughty. He got off easy. Doc didn’t go crazy over it but seemed to double check that. It was only a minor.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Thought for sure he’d get at least a game.

by sstephen17 on Nov 23, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Despite Versus frothing at the mouth, it didn’t even warrant a hearing. I think it was like the Zuccarello hit on Clifford.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Nov 23, 2011 11:22 AM PST reply actions  

Pretty much.

I think that “pre-season Shannie” would have levied a 2 game suspension, but he’s been told to back off somewhat by the GMs. Mitigating factors were that it wasn’t overly hard contact, DD doesn’t have a track record, and there was no injury, but still, I wouldn’t have felt like we were wronged if he’d gotten one game for it.

by SCSF on Nov 23, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a shove from behind, which is why I said:

I think it was like the Zuccarello hit on Clifford.

That got an identical $2500 fine, and it was in the first game of the regular season.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Nov 23, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It was certainly closer to Zuccarello’s hit, than it was to something like Chris Stewart’s last week – which got him a three game suspension. The fine, which is the max they can give out (and is, in my mind ridicilously low), serves as a warning to Doughty, and will make him a repeat offender the next time he does it – therefore more likely to get suspended.

by Hoolie on Nov 23, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think the limits on fines are pretty ridiculous; I would rather that be raised. But comparing that to incidents which earned suspensions, it’s more of “you have to be smarter, no shoving guys near the boards, this is your warning” than the Stewart-Kronwall incident. That also earned a 5 minute major and a game misconduct. IMO, it was more violent.

Here’s the video of Shanahan’s explanation on the Stewart hit, if anyone wants to compare.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Nov 23, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

^I should also add that Stewart had a lot of time to gauge when to deliver a hit, and Kronwall never changed directions.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Nov 23, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

So now that this thread is officially moot, I will throw out my QLCBOID (Quisp Leap to Conclusions Based on Insufficient Data, pronounced QUILK-boyd) of the day: The Kings in their last 7 games are 5-2, and in those 7 games, Quick is 3-2 while Bernier is 2-0. Ergo, Murray should play Bernier more. QED

by m_and_m on Nov 23, 2011 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

I would shorten to Qboid.

However, I think of it as observations based on data in progress. QuObDiP.

by Quisp on Nov 23, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

KWOB-dip? I like it!

by m_and_m on Nov 23, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

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