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"I'm sorry, but you've got to not want to call that to not make a call on the play."

That's the work of Brian Hayward, Poet Laureate of the Anaheim Ducks broadcast team. He's referring to a non-call of too-many-men against Dallas in their game against Anaheim tonight. This is what makes Hayward especially odious as a color commentator. It's not enough that the refs might have missed a call, it has to be that the refs missed the call on purpose because they have it in for the Ducks.

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I can normally stomach their garbage, but tonight I muted it after three homer complaints in about 20 seconds. Part of the reason I just can’t cheer for the Ducks. Go Stars!

by King of Saskatchewan on Apr 3, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Fingernails on the chaulkboard

Hayward does not get on my nerves as much as he used to, but I think I have just gotten used to him. Having said that, I have the Ducks games on, either 1) wanting them to lose or 2) not caring who wins.

One thing they do that bugs me is that they keep saying dumb stuff related to the coach. e.g. “That play is not going to make Rany Carlisle happy” or “Randy Carlisle this… or Randy Carlisle that…”. Duuhh…No coach is happy when their players fuck up.

Both of them make the most inane comments. They must think that all hockey fans are knuckle dragging morons…

by Steve S. on Apr 3, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree that Hayward is that cynical, and that he’s actually and deliberately talking down to his audience. That’s what makes him so annoying — the suspicion that he actually knows better and he’s deliberately being a jerk.

Ahlers, on the other hand, is clearly just a hack. He’s just a sport coat with nothing north of the collar.

"Prepare your bladder for imminent release!" — Invader Zim

by DougX on Apr 3, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes—you are spot on. I get the idea that a lot of Ducks fans came to enjoy hockey because it has been very fashionable in the OC ever sine the Ducks won the Cup. The fact that they “dummy down” their calling of the game is consistent with that.

But I can’t stand it. No different than any other walk of life in terms of someone talking to you as if you are stupid. I would rather listen to someone speaking above my head so I could learn something.

Speaking of the Ducks, these sons a bitches just lost to Dallas but at least it was in regulation…

by Steve S. on Apr 3, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I can’t stand it.

Ditto. But I do get a kick when someone at the pond screams at the linesman for whistling an offside, mistaking it for a penalty.

by JZarris on Apr 3, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classic. And something tells me you’re not joking.

Sig-na...ture

by OneTimer. on Apr 3, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

100% serious

It’s happened at least three times over the last two years, and I never tire of it…

by JZarris on Apr 3, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, my friends and I used to get a kick out of this too! Classic!
I live in the OC and love it, but going to the Pond or listening to Hayward always convinces me yet again, that the Ducks are an irrelevant organization, even with their 2007 Cup win.

by kiosku2 on Apr 3, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another gem

“That’s a shame too, ‘cause I don’t think he makes that save.”

That was in reference to the Selanne disallowed goal. That would have been a pretty routine save if, you know, Koivu hadn’t kicked his leg out from under him.

Ducks fans, by the way, proved themselves to by and large be both ignorant and classless in that game’s waning minutes. Booing the referee en masse for what was clearly the right call on the first disallowed goal and then at least one fan down in front giving the middle finger to the ref after the second. Just because you live in Orange County doesn’t mean you’re entitled to EVERYTHING!

by Garrett79 on Apr 3, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Ducks fans, by the way, proved themselves to by and large be both ignorant and classless in that game’s waning minutes. Booing the referee en masse for what was clearly the right call on the first disallowed goal and then at least one fan down in front giving the middle finger to the ref after the second. Just because you live in Orange County doesn’t mean you’re entitled to EVERYTHING!

Kings fans would have done the exact same thing. Probably worse.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Apr 3, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very, very true. The zebras should be glad they weren’t forced to make those calls in Montreal; a full-blown riot/parliamentary investigation would be in motion.

by JZarris on Apr 3, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah but I’m baggin’ on the Quacks’ fans right now. :)

by Garrett79 on Apr 3, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Hayward much (figures… He played for the Habs), but he’s not nearly as bad as the homers they have on the AM radio games. Bunch of sycophants, I tell ya.

by Passemoilapuck on Apr 3, 2011 7:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Hayward=Tool

Dell, Forbort, Frattin, Genoway, Gregoire, Kristo, Malone, Nelson, Trupp. Go Fighting Sioux.

"A wedding is a funeral where you smell your own flowers" -Eddie Cantor

by angelofdeath on Apr 3, 2011 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I Understand Hayward's frustration but...

it’s pretty silly to to imply that the refs didn’t make the call because they have it in for the Ducks.I don’t know much about Hayward (don’t see enough Ducks broadcasts to judge him), but it was a stupid thing to say. I was watching the Dallas feed on NHL Center Ice, and their announcers were very surprised that they didn’t call that play – it was a blantant too many men on the ice penalty, and they assumed with the parade of penalties that went against the Ducks in the second they would be looking for anything to try and even it up a bit. But the refs, for some reason missed it. It happens. Still, I have to say, if this had happened to the Kings, I’m pretty sure we’d all be pissed right now.

by Hoolie on Apr 4, 2011 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I have the NHL Center Ice package (as do many of you, I suspect) so I’m able to see games from all the other teams. I think they are all, 100% of them, homers to some extent. Yes, Jimmy Fox is a homer too, though not as egregious as most. This may not be popular, but my observation is that on the egregiousness scale, Heyward is somewhere in the middle of the pack, not nerely as bad as the worst of the bunch, such as Mickey Redmond in Detroit or Pete McNab in Colorado.

by m_and_m on Apr 4, 2011 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

It really depends on your definition of "homer"

All team broadcasters focus on their team because they know that’s what their audience is interested in. Naturally, Bob and Jim are going to focus on how things are affecting the Kings, because their audience is Kings fans, and that’s our angle of vision. Same with Ahlers and Hayward and the Ducks. But there’s a line that you cross when you’re either letting subjectivity cloud your best judgment, or you’re just outright being untruthful in order to advance a partisan argument.

Foxy is enthusiastic for the Kings, and he’s excitable. But it’s extremely rare that he let’s that override good judgment, or says something that he ought to know is untrue. I can’t even remember the last time he did that, and I watch a lot of Kings broadcasts.

Hayward may not be the worst that’s out there; I don’t get Center Ice and don’t watch enough out of market games to know. But I will say about his remark about the refs deliberately not calling an automatic penalty like too many men on the ice, that it’s a good thing for him that broadcasters are evidently not covered by the League’s code of conduct. If Dean Lombardi got fined $50k for saying what he said about Mike Murphy, then what Haysie said last night would merit a respectable fraction of that.

"Prepare your bladder for imminent release!" — Invader Zim

by DougX on Apr 4, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree. But Heyward’s suggestions of referee bias are mild compared to others. I remember the Tampa guy going batsh*t over Steve Downie being ejected after taking a 50 yard run at Doughty and getting tossed. He failed to stop short of calling the ref an idiot. Foxie is good in that regard, always respectful (sometimes to a fault) of the referees and he is an exception.

One of my favorite things to do is to DVR the other team’s telecast and watch that after watching the Kings game for their perspective (and to laugh at their homers crying when we win!) Yeah, I know, I have no life.

by m_and_m on Apr 4, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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