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Kings Depth Chart (3): Bottom-six Wingers

Right Wings

  • (Wayne Simmonds) -- obviously, Simmonds will get a new contract and continue at RW3. 
  • Kevin Westgarth -- yes, he did well(-ish) in the playoffs, but I don't know if that justifies him taking up a roster spot next year. I'm guessing Terry Murray thinks so and feels vindicated in his decision to dress Westgarth in lieu of higher-skilled players all season and post-season. Maybe he's right. Maybe Westgarth will blossom into another McSorley without the stick. Personally, I hope Jordan Nolan replaces him. I just think he's cooler, better and scarier. 
  • (Marc-Andre Cliche) -- I can't really gauge where Cliche is in the Kings system right now. He got in a game two seasons ago, was named captain of the Monarchs, and... who knows. Doesn't seem likely to leapfrog Brad Richardson,Trevor Lewis or Scott Parse. Another inj**y replacement. 
  • [Linden Vey] -- the leading scorer in all of juniors last year. I will be shocked if we don't read about an ELC for him in the next ten days. He's a good two-way player, with (obviously) some offensive upside. I think it's reasonable to give him the leg up on LW4 a couple of years down the road. 
  • [Nic Dowd] -- I like Nic Dowd. He's from Alabama. His parents are English. He's just finished his freshman year of college. 
  • [Podge Turnbull] -- or maybe he's a center (too bad, I already posted the centers); had a good season at Wisconsin. Another smallish forward, of which we have many. I haven't done a count of the number of contracts Lombardi will have come 7/1, but my guess is Turnbull will be one of the ones left out. 

Left Wings

  • Scott Parse* -- really a top-six winger (and covered as such), Parse will go into camp fighting for the LW spot not taken by Dustin Penner, Ryan Smyth and Kyle Clifford. He will have competition. 
  • ((Alexei Ponikarovsky)) -- Murray mentioned re-signing him a couple of weeks ago, but I don't see how this is really possible, either cap-wise (he's not going to want to sign at a steep discount, is he?), or in terms of personnel, with Parse, Clifford, Penner and Smyth already signed. Even if Lombardi thinks Poni is a better option than Parse, economically it doesn't make sense to go with Poni. The Kings need the cap space. 
  • Kyle Clifford -- there is little doubt that KC has laid claim to LW3 or LW4 for the foreseeable future. I really want to see Clifford / Brayden Schenn  / Dustin Brown in 2012 (Jarret Stoll is in the way of my dream for now, but I can wait). 
  • Dwight King -- a big body with some skill; put up good numbers in Manchester this season; had an unimpressive cup of coffee with the Kings this year, under utterly impossible conditions. I would not be surprised to see him make the team as LW4 this fall. Depends in part on how the other big bodies (Kevin Westgarth, Jordan Nolan) and pests (Rich Clune, John Zeiler) do. 
  • (Rich Clune) -- with Zeiler a UFA and Clune an RFA, I guess we'll get a better sense of Lombardi's assessment of these two in the next few weeks. 
  • Ray Kaunisto -- a big body a la Dwight King, but without the numbers to recommend him. 
  • (David Meckler) -- honestly, I have no idea. But even if he were NHL-ready, would he get the nod over Zeiler or Clune?

Bottom-Six: What I Expect

Parse - Stoll - Simmonds
Clifford - Lewis - Westgarth

Bottom-Six: What I Would Like*

Penner - Stoll - Simmonds
Clifford - Schenn - Lewis

*subject to change at whim. 

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Uhh, not to nitpick
Top-six, what I expect:

Penner – Kopitar – Williams
Smyth – Stoll – Brown

Top-six, what I hope for:

Penner – Kopitar – Williams
Smyth – Loktionov or Schenn – Brown

I see some repeats! I only bring this up because I was curious to see what you hoped the entire starting forward lineup would be. Here is mine:

Penner – Kopitar – Williams (provided Penner has a good summer)
Smyth – Loktionov – Brown (nice mix of talents)
Clifford – Stoll – Simmonds (high intensity/with Richardson mixed in)
Parse – Schenn – Lewis (smallish, but tertiary scoring? would Staples fall into a black hole if the Kings ever had such a thing? obviously Westgarth would be mixed in)

by CrownedRoyal on May 19, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

yes, i want two penners and two schenns

if penner wants to blow everyone away in the fall, that would suit me just fine

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 19, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

And where do you expect Stoll will be? Or rather, what do you expect to happen with C2/C3/C4 if you had to guess? Should I just refer to the Centers post?

by CrownedRoyal on May 19, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

my mind changes hourly

but

expect: kopitar/stoll-or-schenn/schenn-or-stoll/lewis

hope for: kopitar/loktionov/stoll/schenn

something like:

smyth/kopitar/williams
parse/loktionov/brown
penner/stoll/simmonds
clifford/schenn/lewis

mitchell/doughty
scuderi/johnson
martinez/greene

quick-bernier

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on May 20, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ever since you mentioned Penner filling the Frolov role I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it. Here’s what I thought:

Penner-Kopitar-Simmonds
Smyth-Schenntionov-Williams
Parse-Stoll-Brown
Clifford-Lewis-Richardson/Cliche/Clune/Westgarth

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on May 20, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought of this midway through last season

and it the time to try it is behind us probably with the addition of Penner and return of Parse, but has anyone ever thought of -

Clifford – Kopitar – Williams ?

Clifford has a similar style to Brown, can retrieve pucks in the corner, set up the other two and go to the net, like Smyth but with more speed, size, and can actually shoot too.

Just a thought.

Penner on the 3rd line scares me only because it’s supposed to be the shutdown line, and I feel like he needs to be playing with a playmaking center to be effective offensively, which Stoll is NOT, thus, Penner will be useless on this line.

by CrownedRoyal on May 22, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thought Dowd was a center?

Anyhoo, I like Nic Dowd too, he’s a great story… And who knows, if he makes significant progress in his sophomore season, he might go pro…

"You won't be alive long enough to remember my name"
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by Paul Udani on May 19, 2011 11:12 PM PDT reply actions  

re: westgarth (and fighting)

Quisp I so wish that you had heard this bit on nhl homeice. No way can I do it justice but I’ll give the general idea. Steve Yzerman was asked about not having fighters on the team (granted they have Downie). Anyway, he was quoted as saying something to the effect ‘you don’t need fighters… you need players who will compete hard and fight for the puck’ , players who will etc etc etc. Wish I could remember the other 60%. It was great. Just made me think of our beloved TM. But he likes players who can play ‘heavy’ so guess he likes those retro jerseys and that’s the way it’s gonna remain for the time being.

Bye byyyye Oscar.

by number 6 on May 20, 2011 6:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Holloway?

So I went to Monarchs website to look at some of the guys mentioned above and where they were in the system. I see no mention by anyone here of Holloway even though from just the #‘s he was Monarch’s top scorer and seems to have progressed in his 3 years w/ the team. Could he challenge Simmonds or even that RW4 spot when TM doesn’t want Westie?

And no way I see both Lokti and Schenn. We still need a vet like Zeus. Imagine the defensive nightmare the season would be with 2 rookie centers? I can see Schenn sticking w/ Richardson and Lewis being able to fill in as 4th center as needed and Schenn getting a “taste” throughout the season at #2 center spot.

by JB_LA on May 20, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

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