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Mike Richards: The Philly Perspective

Ed. note: Eric T. writes for the excellent SB Nation blog Broad Street Hockey.  Added to the front page because it brings valuable perspective from the Flyers mothership.

I figured I'd stop by with a write-up on Richards for you guys. This will be partly to inform you and partly as a farewell to him as I finally achieve closure with this move. Anyone who wants to stop by Broad Street Hockey to chat about Simmonds and/or Schenn would be welcomed.

I'll start with the off-ice stuff, since you're probably farther removed from that.

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What's with all this chatter about him being a bad teammate and leader?

Who the hell knows, really.

What's definitely clear is that some members of the local media really disliked him, in no small part because he isn't very friendly with him. Those writers have trashed him at every opportunity; every time the Flyers went through a losing streak, you could count on an article or two (sometimes amplified by sports talk radio) about how Richards wasn't a good enough leader.

I'm not in the room, so I don't have any specific knowledge here. But if I had to guess, I'd guess that he can be a little moody and that it's not always great for the atmosphere but nowhere near the issue it's made out to be. He does play a style that projects effort and desire, which I would guess has more influence on his teammates than his mood after a game.

The real question is what really was going on between Richards and Laviolette. After the season, Laviolette said this:

"All relationships are built. You don't come in and put your hand on someone's hip and say, ‘you and I are best friends'. Mike and I continue to work on our relationship. I respect him as a person and we continue to work on that."

You can read this a lot of ways. One local writer -- one of the leading Richards-bashers -- wrote it up as an example of why Richards wasn't a good leader. Travis completely disagreed and wrote an article calling out what he saw as bias and editorialization. Later there was Twitter chatter that the coach and captain hadn't spoken in a month or something. I mostly ignored it at the time, but maybe there was something and that's why they were willing to trade him.

Richards later gave an interview with a local media member who had treated him more kindly over the years; the summary and a link are here.

One thing that is clear on the off-ice front is that a couple of years ago, he was part of a young party crew that probably embarrassed the team a little -- and all of those players are now gone, which may not be a coincidence.

Enough with the off-ice crap. What about his play?

I'll start with a Puck Prospectus article identifying the best heavy lifters -- the people who were most able to achieve positive results despite very tough assignments. Over the three year span ending in '09-10, Richards was behind only Datsyuk and Kesler. Then they changed their formula and moved Zetterberg ahead of him. Whatever, I'm not entirely thrilled with either way they calculated it, but the point is clear: he's among the elite at taking on difficult situations (in his own zone, against top competition) and moving the play forwards.

This year he shared the defensive zone work a little more with the Carter-Giroux line, but the two previous years he was really bearing the load. In 2009-2010 he was #1 in defensive zone starts and #3 in competition faced (by Corsi Rel QoC), while in '08-09 he was #2 in defensive zone starts and #1 in competition faced. Yet despite those tough situations, he kept the play in the opponents' end more than his teammates -- he had a positive Corsi Rel. This is always an impressive feat, but particularly on a team noted for its forward depth, outplaying your teammates from tougher positions really means something.

Although he is great at pushing the play forwards, starting in the defensive zone so much has meant that he has not been an elite point producer at 5 on 5. In '08-09 and '09-10, when he was doing that really heavy lifting, his league rank in ES points per minute was 99th and 205th, respectively. This year when the assignments got a bit easier (still tough, but a bit easier), that figure rose to 69th.

It's possible that he could be deployed more offensively and become a real scorer. His offensive talents are showcased on the power play, where he ranked 25th and 13th in points per minute the last two years. This year the Flyers power play was epically bad (28/30 at generating shots) and he slipped to 110th in the league -- the causality was probably mutual.

His role on the Flyers has been to shut down the opposition at 5-on-5 and score on the power play. He's been great at that, and I wouldn't change it, but I believe his skillset is flexible enough to take on any role you need from him.

I also haven't mentioned the penalty kill. He's been a very good penalty killer, helping the Flyers be among the best in the league at suppressing shots in recent years and generating a lot of shorthanded offense as well. Ask Montreal about his penalty killing -- you need to watch this video five or eleven times to get a sense for how much fun it's going to be rooting for this guy. And since you're supposed to be Flyers West, you must enjoy seeing the Rangers get humiliated too, right?

And that's it, in a nutshell. The media might not embrace him, but the fans sure as heck do. You're going to love having him.

This item was written by a member of this community and not by an author of JFTC.

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Thank you for writing this, Eric. With all the speculation swirling around, it’s great to be able to hear from someone who has followed him for years.

I have a few questions that I can think of from the top of my head.

1. What you said about his relationship with Laviolette piqued my interest. Richards said this in his first interview with LAKI:

[Murray and Stevens] were both coaches that I got along extremely well with and who played me a lot of minutes and in positions to have success, on the power play and penalty kill. Those are two guys that I got along extremely well with, and I’m looking forward to working with them again.

Did Laviolette use Richards differently from Stevens? Or was he just used differently this year? I was assuming that the season-long wrist injury had something to do with that, since it affected his shooting and faceoff ability, but the quote above made me wonder if it was an issue.

Murray sounded ready to do handsprings with glee when he found out about the trade, so I’m guessing there isn’t going to be conflict there.

2. What were his linemates like over the last few seasons? I know he spent time with Nodl and JVR this year, and he used to play with Gagne, but I was wondering if your spreadsheets had the exact percentages. My first impression is that he’s effective no matter what role he’s put in, but better linemates help.

I’ll come back with more later when I have time to digest it all. Thanks again. You rock.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jun 26, 2011 10:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Your first question is an interesting one. I wish I had my event database handy so I could look at how his usage changed over time, but I don’t have it on this computer.

But I found this comment, where someone noted on January 9 that Richards was 2nd on the team in Corsi Rel QoC and Carter was 4th. By the end of the season, they had switched spots — Carter finished 1st and Richards finished 5th (which was 4th among forwards who were there on Jan 9 — Versteeg’s acquisition bumped him down because he faced top competition in Toronto).

My guess would be that the usage changed quite a bit when Richards got hurt. But it’s hard to know really, and even if that’s accurate, he might not have liked that decision. Maybe that was the start of a rift, who knows. And of course, “positions to have success” could mean more than just competition and zone starts; maybe Richards just didn’t like something about Lavvy’s system. We certainly all found things to complain about with Lavvy this year.

As to the second question, I don’t have that data in my spreadsheets, but it’s easily pulled from other sources. If you want just the top linemates, BtN’s ice time info can tell you he was with Nodl and JVR for about 45% of his ES time this year and with Versteeg and Zherdev for 20-25%. The previous year, it was Gagne and Giroux for 40-50% of the time and Hartnell and Carcillo about 25% each. And yeah, as you saw in the WOWY plot that I dropped in the trade-day article, he definitely did better when playing with better linemates.

If you want more detail, Dobber Hockey will tell you about every line combination that was ever used, and you can spend forever using the WOWY scripts on timeonice (not sure if this year’s are up yet, though).

by Eric T. on Jun 26, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geoff compiled (or was compiling) game by game Corsi and Zone Starts for Carter, Richards and a couple other players (Nodl I assume) after I noticed that those two seemingly took turns playing the harder minutes. I think he’s got all that info just on a spreadsheet, but wasn’t sure what to do with it. I don’t even know if the trend persisted once Carter started playing predominantly on the wing.

Mourning Gagne forever.

by ToddtheFox on Jun 27, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Many thanks!

It really helps me wrap my head around this to have the informed perspective of someone who has watched Richards closely, so I appreciate that you did this for us.

It sounds like the off-ice stuff wasn’t serious enough to write Richards’ ticket out of town. The fact that Carter was also traded at the same time, and the synch with Bryzgalov’s signing suggests that it was a cap hit dump pure and simple. I’m rather surprised that Holmgren chose to dump two star-quality forwards just entering the prime of their careers, but I guess they would fetch the best return.

In 10 years, we may look back on this trade and say that both teams did well by it. It’s too early to predict what Schenn will do, of course. He didn’t stick with the Kings last season mainly because he was having trouble with his defensive reads, but he’s so young that he has plenty of time to improve that aspect of his game. That he shows a lot of promise should go without saying at this point, and I’m disappointed to lose him. I think it’s a case of Lombardi knowing that he had to give a quality asset to get a quality asset.

With Simmonds, his last season was disappointing in that he seemed to take a step back. He’s best when he drives hard to the net, and he wasn’t as consistently intense as he had been in his first couple of seasons. He’s still young, and I think his skill level could improve over the next couple of years. Factor in his size and toughness, and I think he’ll work out as a good 3rd liner for you. I didn’t think Lombardi would part with him at this point, but maybe the fact that he’s RFA this summer and the continuing uncertainty over extending Doughty convinced him that the time is right.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jun 26, 2011 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess they would fetch the best return

This is distinctly possible. It could be that the obvious salary dumps, guys like Hartnell who are productive but a little overpaid, just wouldn’t fetch any return when every GM knew they had the Flyers over a barrel. I could imagine a businessman deciding to move the guys who are so valuable that they create a bidding war and ensure fair return despite the cap situation — but why would that businessman create such a terrible leverage situation with the Bryzgalov trade in the first place?

Incidentally, if you are thinking of this as a cap move, remember this: Richards’ cap hit is 5.75M. Schenn’s is 3.1M and Simmonds will be somewhere near 2M; if Schenn is in the NHL next year, this move only cleared around 1-1.5M (depending on the cap hit of the player that Simmonds replaces).

I think there had to be more than cap decision involved here. It may have been a hockey issue of some sort, it may have been a personality issue, it may have been frustration with his poor media relations; I never saw anything that would have me ready to ship him off, but I obviously don’t know everything that happened in or around the team.

In 10 years, we may look back on this trade and say that both teams did well by it.

I sure hope so. The Flyers took on an awful lot of risk with this move, and they created a very young forward corps while their best defensemen are getting quite old and signed a goalie past his prime, so it seems like an odd move. But if Schenn turns out to be great, then it’ll be OK.

by Eric T. on Jun 26, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good write up Eric. You guys will love Richie, puts in 100% effort on the ice all the time. I love the guy and I’m sad to see him leave. Carter I don’t mind so much but i’m still trying to get over Richards being traded. I know Eric mentioned about his effort and the shortie against Montreal last year but what a lot of you probably don’t know is that with 30 seconds remaining in game 4 vs Boston this season he dives to block a shot on an empty net goal, fast forward to 17:55. That shows you what kinda heart he has.

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by James Cox on Jun 26, 2011 5:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually came on here just to mention that point. The game is lost, the series is lost, the Flyers just got swept. And with 30 seconds left Mike Richards is putting his body on the line to stop Boston scoring an empty netter even though the Flyers were over.

On the ice, the man was everything.

Simon Gagne may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home, but at the end of the day, he will always be a Philadelphia Flyer.

by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 26, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

I remember being very impressed, even though I was celebrating the B’s victory at the time (sorry, you two).

I think the Kings and fans will love him, and as a Shark fan I will respect him but dislike him intensely.

PS, off-topic…have comments been deleted from this thread? The count seems a little funny. Just curious.

by whine_country on Jun 27, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I deleted one of my own — when I front paged it, there were some technical difficulties. So apologies to everyone while it was wonky for a brief time.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jun 27, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I see there were two other comments by Eric lost in limbo, noting the reply button failing to work and the tech. difficulties.

At least we’re out of post purgatory now. Whew.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jun 27, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

And sorry about the Shark fan thing. :) I actually liked the Kings first, though, and still like to see them do well.

by whine_country on Jun 27, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, no worries, you’re cool. We welcome everyone. (Well, everyone who’s not trolling.)

Should be a good battle for the Pacific this year. And we should both thoroughly crush the Ducks.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jun 27, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

And we should both thoroughly crush the Ducks.

You know that’s right.

by whine_country on Jun 27, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the great write-up

I think that Kopitar is going to benefit a ton from Richards. He won’t always have to face the opposition’s best checking line and will get to ease up on PK minutes.

Two questions I have on Richards:

1. How was he utilized by Philly on the PP? Did he ever man the point?
2. How was he in the faceoff circle? Did he take a lot of the tough defensive zone and/or late game faceoffs?

by sstephen17 on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

I can help answer #2 — here’s Mike Richards’ player card from Behind the Net. I set it up to show lot of his microstats from the last 4 years in a row. If you look at his offensive zone starts (under “Ozone%”), they’ve been pretty tough — from 31 to 46%. For comparison, Handzus, who had the most defensive zone starts for the Kings a couple years running, has similar numbers there.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jun 27, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

/nod

And if the question is about his faceoff skills specifically, he’s been right around 50% for most of his career. Nothing special on the draw, but they certainly didn’t shy away from the tough defensive draws because of the faceoff skills.

On the PP, he wasn’t used on the point. The Flyers mostly kept their defensemen there, van Riemsdyk is the only forward I remember trying it recently (and he didn’t have great success).

by Eric T. on Jun 27, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played with a torn ligament in his wrist that… all season. He didn’t want surgery that would have him missing any time before the season so he gutted it out. After the season he said that the wrist had an effect on his FO.

by OrangeNblacK on Jun 27, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I personally don’t remember seeing Richards man the point; my memories of him in Philly were of a more effective version of Kopi, if that makes any sense.

by shm5555 on Jun 27, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

In 2007-9 he played the point almost exclusively on the PP and was great at it. Adding Chris Pronger, and Andrej Meszaros more or less made that unnecessary but Mike is excellent on the point of the PP.

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Jun 27, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fact most of his scoring is PP stuff, he’s not a bad even strength point producer, but he isn’t great. He’s a shutdown defensive center with above average 5v5 scoring touch who is arguably the best Pk’er in hockey and a very good player on the PP.

Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"

by Ed Van Chimp on Jun 27, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 words: Slap Pass. He learned that from Kimmo Timonen.

by OrangeNblacK on Jun 27, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Very lucid write-up, thank you very much.

I am thinking that Wayne Simmonds may have been destined to play in Philly. Given his style and willingness to get his hands dirty I think it will take all of two games before he becomes a fan favorite for you guys. As he matures on/off the ice he will become a very, very valuable player…gonna miss him.

by JZarris on Jun 27, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I have never counted myself as a Mike Richards fan......

But this article gave me serious goosebumps. Give me October NOW!!!!

Giv'r

by DontDoughtDrew on Jun 27, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Richards is a warrior. You guys will love having him.

by 92-74-99-96 on Jun 27, 2011 4:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

But this article gave me serious goosebumps

Get used to it.

by OrangeNblacK on Jun 27, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great review.....

refreshing change from some of the Broad Street hysterics……

It will be interesting to see how Richards adjust from a sports ‘pressure cooker’ town like Philly to a laid-back hockey town like LA, where he’ll have to search just to find a hockey writer…..A lot of East Coast fans like to credit themselves with “pushing” players to greatness with their unrelenting pressure (and occasional abuse); I tend to think the money they spend is probably more important, but it will be interesting to see if Richards can bring his passion for the game to LA and infuse it others…….

by jkaflagg on Jun 27, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

You guys are going to love Richards

Tremendous heart. Regardless of what some revisionists in Philly want to say. Richards is an elite talent.

by CowboysSuck on Jun 27, 2011 7:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Great Review

I think this is a great review of Mike Richards…

He is a great leader and seemed to be well liked by everyone on the Flyers!! As far as Attitude goes, he’s got a team first mentality!!
The problems in Philly as most places Pronger has played started when he got traded there. Yes, he is a hall of famer on the ice but his off ice is something else!! He doesn’t hangout with anyone on the team, he is arrogant and a prick!! Mike did play on the pp exclusively in the previous few seasons with Kimmo and the flyers pp was way better percentage wise then with Pronger back there. Richie and Kimmo can see the ice and make some passes where Pronger stands in one place and tries to blast the puck through guys… not so successful!! In fact when Pronger fot hurt and missed games in the playoffs, Richards was put back there and pp improved even with him not being able to shot due to wrist injury!!! La got a proven all star and he will only get better with out all the media BS in Philly and will help Brown led the team with or without a letter… Champions are not found everyday and Mike Richards has won in every league/ tournament he’s played in.. only a matter of time for Stanley to be hoisted over his head!!! If the kings can add one more top 9 player up front, their deep run in the playoffs this coming year should not be considered “cinderella”!!!

by richierocks! on Jul 1, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions  

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