Kings Reserve List - July, 2011 [UPDATED: Lewis/Elkins/etc.]
Lewis and Richardson have signed two year deals. All the Manchester RFAs except Elkins and Holloway signed one year extensions. Holloway is presumably still negotiating. Elkins -- according to his agent's tweets, will play in Europe next year. For those keeping score, that leaves Doughty and Holloway unsigned.
The Kings currently have 47 contracts, four of which don't count against the limit as long as Toffoli and Weal stay in juniors, Moller stays in Sweden, and Elkins stays wherever in Europe he's going to play. Roe and Turnbull need to be signed by 8/15 or they become UFAs.
The table is fully sortable now. I personally enjoy clicking on the age and draft year columns; sorting the entire list by jersey number is fun, too. (oh, by the way, the numbers of the non-roster players are their most recent Kings roster/prospect/training-camp numbers, not their numbers in Manchester, juniors, college, etc.).
| player | team (league) | exp. | nxt | dr y(t) | s/a (t) | we y(g) | born | age | LAK# | CAP | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Anze Kopitar | Kings (NHL) | 2016 | UFA | 2005 (LAK) | 2005 | 8/24/87 | 23.9 | 11 | $6.800 | |
| 2 | Mike Richards | Kings (NHL) | 2020 | UFA | 2003 (PHI) | 2011 (PHI) | 2/11/85 | 26.4 | 10 | $5.750 | |
| 3 | Jack Johnson | Kings (NHL) | 2018 | UFA | 2005 (CAR) | 2006 (CAR) | 1/13/87 | 24.5 | 3 | $4.357 | |
| 4 | Dustin Penner | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | und | 2011 (EDM) | 9/28/82 | 28.8 | 25 | $4.250 | |
| 5 | Justin Williams | Kings (NHL) | 2015 | UFA | 2000 (PHI) | 2009 (CAR) | 10/4/81 | 29.8 | 14 | $3.650 | |
| 6 | Jarret Stoll | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | 2002 (EDM) | 2008 (EDM) | 1/24/82 | 29.5 | 28 | $3.600 | |
| 7 | Willie Mitchell | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | 1996 (NJD) | 2010 ((VAN)) | 4/23/77 | 34.3 | 33 | $3.500 | |
| 8 | Simon Gagne | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | UFA | 1998 (PHI) | 2011 ((TBL)) | 2/29/80 | 31.4 | 12 | $3.500 | |
| 9 | Rob Scuderi | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | UFA | 1998 (PIT) | 2009 ((PIT)) | 12/30/78 | 32.6 | 7 | $3.400 | |
| 10 | Dustin Brown | Kings (NHL) | 2014 | UFA | 2003 (LAK) | 2003 | 11/4/84 | 26.7 | 23 | $3.175 | |
| 11 | Matt Greene | Kings (NHL) | 2014 | UFA | 2002 (EDM) | 2008 (EDM) | 5/13/83 | 28.2 | 2 | $2.950 | |
| 12 | Jonathan Quick | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2005 (LAK) | 2007 | 1/21/86 | 25.5 | 32 | $1.800 | |
| 13 | Thomas Hickey | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2007 (LAK) | 2007 | 2012 (160) | 2/8/89 | 22.5 | 37 | $1.317 |
| 14 | Jonathan Bernier | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2006 (LAK) | 2006 | 2012 (55) | 8/7/88 | 23.0 | 45 | $1.250 |
| 15 | Brad Richardson | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | UFA | 2003 (SJS) | 2008 (COL) | 2/4/85 | 26.5 | 15 | $1.175 | |
| 16 | Scott Parse | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | 2004 (LAK) | 2007 | 9/5/84 | 26.9 | 21 | $0.900 | |
| 17 | Ray Kaunisto | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | und | 2010 | 2013 (60) | 2/7/87 | 24.5 | 82 | $0.900 |
| 18 | Jake Muzzin | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2007 (PIT) | 2010 | 2012 (69) | 2/21/89 | 22.4 | 6 | $0.900 |
| 19 | Linden Vey | Monarchs (AHL) | 2014 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2011 | 7/17/91 | 20.0 | 57 | $0.900 | |
| 20 | Jordan Weal | Regina Pats (1) (CHL) | 2014 | RFA | 2010 (LAK) | 2011 | 2014 (160) | 4/15/92 | 19.3 | 60 | $0.900 |
| 21 | Tyler Toffoli | Ottawa 67's (1) (CHL) | 2014 | RFA | 2010 (LAK) | 2011 | 2014 (160) | 4/24/92 | 19.2 | 73 | $0.900 |
| 22 | Kyle Clifford | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2009 | 2014 (78) | 1/13/91 | 20.5 | 13 | $0.870 |
| 23 | Colin Fraser | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | 2003 (PHI) | 2011 (EDM) | 1/28/85 | 26.5 | $0.825 | ||
| 24 | Viatcheslav Voynov | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2008 (LAK) | 2008 | 2013 (160) | 1/15/90 | 21.5 | 76 | $0.817 |
| 25 | Andrei Loktionov | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2008 (LAK) | 2009 | 2013 (141) | 5/30/90 | 21.1 | 12 | $0.817 |
| 26 | Alec Martinez | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2007 (LAK) | 2008 | 7/26/87 | 24.0 | 53 | $0.738 | |
| 27 | Trevor Lewis | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2006 (LAK) | 2006 | 1/8/87 | 24.5 | 22 | $0.725 | |
| 28 | Nicolas Deslauriers | Monarchs (AHL) | 2014 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2011 | 2/22/91 | 20.4 | 80 | $0.717 | |
| 29 | Davis Drewiske | Kings (NHL) | 2013 | RFA | und | 2007 | 11/22/84 | 26.7 | 44 | $0.617 | |
| 30 | Dwight King | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2007 (LAK) | 2009 | 2012 (154) | 7/5/89 | 22.0 | 74 | $0.592 |
| 31 | Brandon Kozun | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2010 | 2013 (160) | 3/8/90 | 21.4 | 51 | $0.575 |
| 32 | Justin Azevedo | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2008 (LAK) | 2009 | 2012 (80) | 4/1/88 | 23.3 | 62 | $0.553 |
| 33 | Jean-Francois Berube | Monarchs (AHL) | 2014 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2011 | 7/13/91 | 20.0 | 35 | $0.540 | |
| 34 | David Kolomatis | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2010 | 2013 (80) | 2/25/89 | 22.4 | 83 | $0.538 |
| 35 | Jordan Nolan | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | 2009 (LAK) | 2010 | 2013 (80) | 6/23/89 | 22.1 | 71 | $0.532 |
| 36 | Martin Jones | Monarchs (AHL) | 2013 | RFA | und | 2008 | 2013 (80) | 1/10/90 | 21.5 | 31 | $0.526 |
| 37 | Kevin Westgarth | Kings (NHL) | 2012 | UFA | und | 2007 | 2/7/84 | 27.5 | 19 | $0.525 | |
| 38 | Marc-Andre Cliche | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2005 (NYR) | 2007 (NYR) | 3/23/87 | 24.3 | 67 | $0.525 | |
| 39 | Igor Melyakov | Nizhny Novgorod (KHL) | u | 1995 (LAK) | 12/23/76 | 34.6 | |||||
| 40 | Jan Marek | CSKA Moscow (KHL) | u | 2003 (NYR) | (NYR) | 12/31/79 | 31.6 | ||||
| 41 | Andrei Shefer | Cherepovets (KHL) | u | 1999 (LAK) | 7/26/81 | 30.0 | |||||
| 42 | Mikhail Lyubushin | Nizhny Novgorod (KHL) | u | 2002 (LAK) | 7/24/83 | 28.0 | |||||
| 43 | Brady Murray | Lugano (SW-A) | UFA | 2003 (LAK) | 2007 | 8/17/84 | 26.9 | ||||
| 44 | Johan Fransson | SKA-St. Ptrsbrg (KHL) | UFA | 2004 (DAL) | 2010 (DAL) | 2/18/85 | 26.4 | 40 | |||
| 45 | Corey Elkins | HC Pardubice (CZE) | RFA | und | 2009 | 2/23/85 | 26.4 | ||||
| 46 | Patrick Mullen | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | und | 2009 | 2012 (60) | 5/6/86 | 25.2 | 59 | |
| 47 | Rich Clune | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2005 (DAL) | 2008 (DAL) | 4/25/87 | 24.2 | 56 | ||
| 48 | Jeff Zatkoff | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2006 (LAK) | 2008 | 2012 (60) | 6/9/87 | 24.1 | 36 | |
| 49 | David Meckler | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2006 (LAK) | 2008 | 7/9/87 | 24.0 | 58 | ||
| 50 | Andrew Campbell | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | RFA | 2008 (LAK) | 2008 | 2/4/88 | 23.5 | 81 | ||
| 51 | Garrett Roe | St. Cloud St. (0) (NCAA) | 2011 | u | 2008 (LAK) | 2/22/88 | 23.4 | ||||
| 52 | Bud Holloway | Monarchs (AHL) | 2011 | RFA | 2006 (LAK) | 2008 | 3/1/88 | 23.4 | 50 | ||
| 53 | Podge Turnbull | Wisconsin (0) (NCAA) | 2011 | u | 2007 (LAK) | 7/12/88 | 23.0 | 68 | |||
| 54 | Oscar Moller | Skelleftea AIK (SEL) | RFA | 2007 (LAK) | 2008 | 1/22/89 | 22.5 | 9 | |||
| 55 | Drew Doughty | Kings (NHL) | 2011 | RFA | 2008 (LAK) | 2008 | 12/8/89 | 21.6 | 8 | ||
| 56 | Robert Czarnik | Monarchs (AHL) | 2012 | u | 2008 (LAK) | 1/25/90 | 21.5 | 77 | |||
| 57 | Nic Dowd | St. Could St. (3) (NCAA) | 2013 | u | 2009 (LAK) | 5/27/90 | 21.2 | 72 | |||
| 58 | Andy Andreoff | Oshawa (0) (CHL) | 2013 | u | 2011 (LAK) | 5/17/91 | 20.2 | 64 | |||
| 59 | Joel Lowry | Cornell (4) (NCAA) | 2015 | u | 2011 (LAK) | 11/15/91 | 19.7 | 49 | |||
| 60 | Maxim Kitsyn | Metallurg Novok. (KHL) | u | 2010 (LAK) | 12/24/91 | 19.6 | 42 | ||||
| 61 | Derek Forbort | UND (3) (NCAA) | 2014 | u | 2010 (LAK) | 3/4/92 | 19.4 | 84 | |||
| 62 | Kevin Gravel | St. Cloud St. (3) (NCAA) | 2014 | u | 2010 (LAK) | 3/6/92 | 19.4 | 54 | |||
| 63 | Nicholas Shore | Denver (3) (NCAA) | 2014 | u | 2011 (LAK) | 9/26/92 | 18.8 | 56 | |||
| 64 | Michael Mersch | Wisconsin (3) (NCAA) | 2014 | u | 2011 (LAK) | 10/2/92 | 18.8 | 55 | |||
| 65 | Christopher Gibson | Chicoutimi (2) (CHL) | 2013 | u | 2011 (LAK) | 12/27/92 | 18.6 | 75 | |||
| 66 | Michael Schumacher | Owen Sound (2)(CHL) | u | 2011 (LAK) | 8/25/93 | 17.9 | 43 |
To reiterate the terms and rules, as defined in the CBA:
"Reserve list" - a team may not have more than 90 players on its reserve list, which is the total of all players under contract and all unsigned draft-picks.
KEY:
exp. indicates the year the player's current contract expires. All contracts expire on 7/1 of that year. However, in the case of unsigned picks, it's the year they must be signed by (two years after their draft year, or, in the case of college players, either the year they graduate or -- if they don't stay in school -- four years after their draft year). Generally, college players must be signed by 8/15 of the year of their graduation, and juniors players must be signed by 6/1.
nxt. refers to the player's free-agency status as of 7/1 of that year.
dr y(t) refers to the player's draft year and draft team.
we y(g) indicates the year in which (on 7/1) the player's waiver-exemption expires, and the number of games played left before the player's waiver-exemption expires, whichever comes first.
age refers to the players age at the time the chart was last updated by me (7/13/11, in this case).
u -- unsigned
und -- undrafted
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PS did you see Gagne got Lokti’s number? I wonder which one he will take instead.
That picture is weird. It looks like there is some kind of mannequin head in the background.
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Yes.
some kind of mannequin head
Supporting what looks like a bad wig? Or maybe from the cover of The Yes Album?
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Jul 14, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They scalped Smyth on the way out of town!
I just remembered that it might be one of the mullet wigs they had for his 1,000th game. Unless they just have a creepy fetish or something.
(Actually, I wouldn’t rule that out.)
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@ Niesy
Hi Niesy. Remember on the DD thread I tried to leave that comment from a fan?
Well, here (if it works) this is from 4th period site.
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/lak110708.html
Read the comments below the article.
Every single comment says that DD does in no way deserve what is being asked (notice I didn’t say what He is asking). So while Quispie did indeed point out that only 13 dmen had scored as many points as Drew at the age of 20 ? - I’m still wary. Huge talent Yes!! But really how can you ask to be paid the equivalent of Nik Lidstrom when you haven’t won one playoff round? It’s not like buying electronics or something. ‘If you’ve used this for two years and don’t get the promised results… bring it back for an equitable refund.’
Toews and Kane have Both won Stanley Cup and neither is getting what DD is supposedly asking for.
My points of ref have changed in my life I suppose (not to get overly dramatic) but as much as I want the Kings to compete and win the SC, I’m over this stuff.
I’m sure something will eventually be worked out, but if it came to a trade…. well, so be it. I’ll root just as hard for the Kings.
Really, OK, let’s say Five Years at $6M (which I imagine he would surpass)… that makes $30M. Don’t forget that he’s already earned roughly $9M for the last three years. Hmmmm. I think as a bachelor it’s possible (great effort, I understand) but with discipline one can live over a decade on a $40M budget.
These guys (athletes) are SO OFF!! Not a lot of them, but some are really off.
I find it a bit of a pity really. Oh well, i do enjoy watching him play.
You must not be married. Clearly you have no idea what shoes cost.
Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?
lol
that’s good 17. excellent.
tell you what, i was originally gonna put some hypothetical in my post along the lines of…. if he marries britney and has an acrimonious split…. hey, who knows? It’s LA where all is possible.
Actually I was married but it wasn’t cause of the shoes that we went our separate ways….
In my experience, shoes do not cost as much as season tickets, cool cars, and random electronic equipment. At least, if you want to get into stereotypes. I’d be the one buying season tickets. ;)
Maybe it’s different if you are addicted to Manolos?
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These guys (athletes) are SO OFF!! Not a lot of them, but some are really off.
I find it a bit of a pity really. Oh well, i do enjoy watching him play.
It is a lot of money to ordinary folk like you an me. It seems like quibbling over nothing. But at the same time, they have a specialized skill that the market rewards. They’ve put in thousands (and I do mean literally thousands) of hours in their life to achieve this expert skill level. Their careers may be cut short in an eyeblink, and they’re entitled to earn whatever they can. That same career can also leave their bodies and minds brutally impaired.
As far as “being paid like Lidstrom,” I think the market forces are just setting that up. (It’s worth noting that Lidstrom himself, pre-salary cap, used to earn far more per year than he is making today.) It’s a team sport, so making it past one playoff round is not all on one guy. And Kopitar was paid a tremendous amount of money at a young age as well. I’d rather pay Doughty something like that and get real value out of it rather than fling desperation money at Erhoff and Wisniewski.
It comes down to whether or not you think Doughty should be let go. I’ve seen enough of his play that I think that would be a terrible mistake. We have no one in the system comparable to his skill level. We just don’t. And if we won’t pay him, many other teams will.
That said, I understand people’s anxieties. I think we should just wait and see how it all plays out.
In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC
But at the same time, they have a specialized skill that the market rewards. They’ve put in thousands (and I do mean literally thousands) of hours in their life to achieve this expert skill level. Their careers may be cut short in an eyeblink, and they’re entitled to earn whatever they can. That same career can also leave their bodies and minds brutally impaired.
Indeed. If he’s fortunate to get through the wars unscathed, Drew will have this kind of earning power for maybe 15 more years. He will probably never have anything close to that kind of earning power again in his life, and one should hope he will have a long life after his playing days are over. Guys like John Elway and Magic Johnson are the exception, not the rule.
As for the physical toll, well, I wouldn’t wish the effects of post-concussion syndrome on anyone. To take two recent examples, I think it would be naive to think that the effect of being hit over and over again had nothing to do with how Bob Probert and Derek Boogard ended up. Drew has already had one certified concussion; we can only hope that it will be a lot longer than 3 years before he suffers another one.
A lot of times, when sports fans complain about “greedy athletes,” they either aren’t thinking it through or they’re speaking out of resentment and envy of those who are more fortunate (and more hard-working, which is an even more morally corrupt form of envy).
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thanks Niesy
I’ve had a shite week and thats probably the time when I should pack it in relative to making comments. I mean, honestly I can see both sides. I do however still feel that a difference of 500k difference per season shouldn’t be such a sticking point (if in fact it is) when it’s going over a period of maybe 7-9 years.
Anyways, your point is super well taken. Also very true that there is no one in the system who begins to approach his level of skill.
Oh well…… have a nice weekend :-)
Aw, don’t pack it in unless you want to.
I agree 500k should not be much of a sticking point. I guess it depends on the term — if you take away some UFA years, that should mean something.
If it is the NTC/NMC clause that is the holdup, I don’t know who will give in. Lombardi doesn’t like shackling himself to those sort of things (and he had a vivid reminder of exactly why, with Smyth’s contract — though he did not give that himself). On the other hand, if you’re committing to Doughty for 7-9 years, you still have a long window before that clause kicks in.
Hmm…I really wish this was over and done with already!
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Is there a limit to the number of players whose rights you can hold? I understand that the contract limit is 50, but IIRC it used to be that you could only hold the rights to so many players as well.
I’m just surprised to see that the Kings have held on to the rights to Brady Murray. The only explanations I can think of is that are that they are so far under the ceiling in terms of holding the rights to players that it doesn’t matter, or that there is no such limit.
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