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Your turn: make your own best-possible Kings team

As fans, we like to ponder what-ifs. What if we hadn't traded x? Why did we let z go? Usually, there's a pretty good reason. But today's exercise is to pretend that anything is possible. 

If you were the GM, and the Kings could have any 23 players you want, out of the fairly-long list of players who (1) are still active, and (2) either currently or previously played for the Kings, what would that line-up look like? 

Here is who you get to choose from. After the jump, I'll give you my selections. 

LWCRW
Alex Frolov Andrei Loktionov Brandon Segal
Alexei Ponikarovsky Anze Kopitar Dustin Brown
Dustin Penner Brad Richardson Jamie Lundmark
Jon Sim Brayden Schenn Jerred Smithson
Josh Green Brian Boyle Justin Williams
Kyle Clifford Eric Belanger Kevin Westgarth
Matt Moulson Jarret Stoll Mark Parrish
Mike Cammalleri Michal Handzus Matt Ellis
Patrick O`Sullivan Mike Richards Oscar Moller
Ryan Smyth Pavol Demitra Teddy Purcell
Scott Parse Trevor Lewis Tom Kostopoulos
Sean Avery   Wayne Simmonds
Simon Gagne  

DG
Alec Martinez Erik Ersberg
Brad Stuart Jason LaBarbera
Brent Sopel Jonathan Bernier
Drew Doughty Jonathan Quick
Jack Johnson Mathieu Garon
Jake Muzzin  
Joe Corvo  
Kyle Quincey  
Lubomir Visnovsky  
Matt Greene  
Rob Scuderi  
Sean O`Donnell  
Tim Gleason  
Willie Mitchell

Star-divide

Here's my roster. I'm pretending there's no salary cap, by the way.

Cammalleri - Kopitar - Williams

Gagne - Richards - Brown

Moulson - Stoll - Purcell

Clifford - Lewis - Simmonds

(Penner, Boyle)

Doughty - Johnson

Scuderi - Visnovsky

Quincey - Gleason

(Martinez)

Quick - Bernier

Okay, that's not a bad team. You might think Frolov deserves a spot. Maybe you think Penner doesn't. Maybe Matt Greene is a better choice that Quincey or Gleason. Etc. There are lots of ways to go. But it would be hard to argue that's a worse team than what we have currently. 

The only problem is, that roster has a cap hit of $77.2 million. Nearly $13MM over the cap. (I figured $7MM for Doughty, by the way; and used the current cap hits of the other players). I know I said I was ignoring the cap for the purpose of the above exercise. But now I'm bringing it back. Because that roster -- in which we got Stoll but kept Lubo, kept Quincey, got Johnson but kept Gleason, got Richards but kept Simmonds, and never traded Cammalleri -- could never be. Even if you wanted to have that much depth (Penner in the press box, etc.), the cap prevents it. 

So, how am I going to get this roster down under the cap ceiling? I've got $12.8MM to shed.

  • Okay, I'm getting rid of Penner and Boyle. You can't have $6MM of cap hit sitting in the press box. So they're gone. 
  • For the sake of argument, replace them with one $550K forward, doesn't matter who. Say it's Westgarth, because, well, Murray is still the coach, right? 
  • $7.3MM, roughly, still left to shed. Sorry, Lubo. Martinez is in, you're out. That's a savings of nearly $5MM right there. Add back in Muzzin as the 7th d, and you've got a salary dump of a little more than $4MM. 
  • Still about $3MM left to shed. And since you have to replace that body, the dumped player is going to have to have a cap hit around $3.5-4MM. 
  • Gagne, Stoll or Scuderi, perhaps? If it's Scuderi, you could drop in Davis Drewiske. If it's Gagne or Stoll, you could use Brad Richardson. 
  • (isn't it starting to look like Cammalleri is messing everything up? Or is it Moulson and Purcell? Yeah, it would be nice to have those two, maybe. But that's $5.5MM in cap hit right there, for those two guys.) 
  • I'm going to bite the bullet and say goodbye to Cammalleri, and bring back Penner. That's a savings of $1.75MM, leaving us with $1.25MM to go. 
  • Goodbye Quincey, hello Drewiske. Now, we're under the cap. And this is my cap-conscious roster:
Moulson - Kopitar - Williams
Gagne - Richards - Purcell
Penner - Stoll - Brown
Clifford - Lewis - Simmonds
(Westgarth)
Doughty - Johnson
Scuderi - Martinez
Muzzin - Gleason
(Drewiske)
Quick - Bernier

And how is that different than what we really have? 
  • Moulson and Purcell instead of Richardson and Parse.
  • Gleason and Muzzin instead of Greene and Mitchell.
  • And Simmonds instead of (I'm guessing) Loktionov.
The defense of my fictional team is a bit faster and less experienced. The forwards? Look, if Moulson and Purcell combine for 50 goals this year, that's going to be hard for Parse and Richardson to match. But it's not their jobs to match it. Because those are bottom-six guys for us, and the comparables for Purcell and Moulson on the current Kings team are Penner and Brown -- or Gagne and Williams, depending how you look at it -- and either of those pairs will outscore Moulson/Purcell this season, while playing better on both sides of the puck, and hitting a few people along the way. 

So, after all that, I'll stick with what we have. (And wait for Toffoli and Deslauriers.)

Those are my results. What did you come up with? 

 

 

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I think its tough to realistically not want Schenn in the lineup. Not to say that guys like Clifford or Lewis aren’t worthy or better postion fits, but if we’re making a best-possible team, I think he should be on the ice somewhere. Even in the press box.

by Olympichero03 on Jul 30, 2011 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I go:

Cammalleri – Kopi – Williams
Gagne – Richards – Brown
Moulson – Stoll – Simmonds
Clifford – Handzus – Kostopoulous
(Avery, Boyle)

Mitchell – Doughty
Johnson – Scuderi
Gleason – Corvo

Quick – Bernier

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jul 30, 2011 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Bernier vs. Garon

with a cap difference of $50,000 (Bernier is cheaper), who serves as the better backup?

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!

by uvgt2bkdnme on Jul 30, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

upon further investigation

i guess i put too much stock in Garon’s first half of 2005-2006 when the Kings were 2nd in the conference in January.

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!

by uvgt2bkdnme on Jul 30, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cammalleri – Kopi – Brown
Gagne – Richards – Williams
Moulson – Stoll – Moller
Clifford – Handzus – Simmonds
(Purcell, Avery)

Mitchell – Doughty
Johnson – Scuderi
Quincey – Lubo
(Greene)

Quick – Bernier

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by BoulderDodger on Jul 30, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

This is way More of Who I like, not necessarily the better hockey team

Cammalleri – Kopitar – Williams
Frolov – Handzus – Brown
Stoll – Loktionov – Moller
Clifford – Lewis – Simmonds
(Parse)
Doughty – Lubo
Johnson – Scuderi
Quincey – Corvo
(Gleason)
Quick – Bernier
(Ersberg)

by klink3115 on Jul 30, 2011 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Cammalleri – Kopitar – Williams
Gagne – Richards – Brown
Penner – Stoll – Simmonds
Clifford – Schenn – Moller
(Lewis)

Doughty – Mitchell
Johnson – Scuderi
Gleason – Muzzin
(Greene)

Quick – Bernier

by bucknellbruin on Jul 30, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Semi-youthful, semi-cap conscious

Cammalleri-Kopitar-Williams
Gagne-Richards-Brown
Frolov-Loktionov-Clifford
Simmonds-Belanger-Kostopoulos
(Lewis, Moller)

Doughty-Scuderi
Johnson-Mitchell
O’Donnell-Martinez
(Muzzin)

Quick-Bernier

Estimated cap (w/ $7mil rule for Doughty): $63.3-ish

I agree with Quisp, the real world Kings are better.

by Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo on Jul 30, 2011 11:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Cammalleri-Kopitar-Williams
Moulson-Richards-Brown
Gagne-Stoll-Purcell
Penner-Schenn-Simmonds
(Clifford-Lewis)

Doughty-Mitchell
Scuderi-Visnovsky
Greene-Johnson

Quick-Bernier

by WildKaRD on Jul 30, 2011 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm gonna riff on your D-pairs

Doughty-Mitchell
Scuderi-Visnovsky
Greene-Voynov

Me likey

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Aug 2, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not care about the Cap for this exercise. Oh, and I always hated Mike Cammallerri and did not want him to be on the team. I wouldn’t take him back if he’d play for th league minimum.

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Gagne-Richards-Brown
Moulson-Demitra-Purcell
Penner-Handzus-Simmonds

spare forwards- Stoll, Belanger

Doughty-Johnson
Lubo-Quincey
Scuderi-Mitchell

spare D- O’Donnell

Bernier-Quick

by Garrett79 on Jul 31, 2011 12:30 AM PDT reply actions  

My L.A. Kings team and no cares about the Cap

Gagne-Richards-Williams
Smyth-Kopitar-Purcell
Penner-Stoll-Brown
Moulson-Lewis-Simmonds
       (Richardson)

Martinez-Stuart
Johnson- Mitchell
Quincey-Greene
       (Scuderi)

         Quick
         Bernier

Speed covers a multitude of sins and hard shots hurt.

by Old Time Hockey on Jul 31, 2011 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Speed covers a multitude of sins and hard shots hurt.

Then why on earth would you want Ryan Smyth on your team?

by DMcD on Aug 1, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, Greene before Doughty or Scuderi?

okay

by Passemoilapuck on Aug 2, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Cap Obv and taking advantage of seats in the press box

Cammalleri-Kopitar-Brown
Moulson-Richards-Williams
Smyth-Stoll-Purcell
Avery-Handzus-Simmonds
(Richardson/Belanger/Clifford)

Mitchell-Doughty
Gleason-Johnson
Corvo-Scuderi
(Quincey/Greene)

Quick
Bernier
(LaBarbara)

by kle18 on Aug 1, 2011 11:42 PM PDT reply actions  

“Say it’s Westgarth, because, well, Murray is still the coach, right? "

Well, yes, but on mine it’ll be Andy, not Terry. :)

by shm5555 on Aug 2, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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