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Fishing After Hours: Kings Development Camp Invitees 2011

[W]hen your list ends, you've got about 5 or 6 kids that you still just -- you wish you had more picks. And it's not feasible that you're always going to get your kids, but we've been working the phones pretty hard, and we got them all... [T]hey've all made the commitment to come to be at our camp, and these are kids that we would have taken, according to our list, in the 5th or 6th rounds.

We certainly hope that we can find one or steal one out of our invites as well, who are going to make things that much more special.

-- Mike Futa, Co-Director of Amateur Scouting

Since 2007, Dean Lombardi stockpiled as many extra draft picks as he could. Even with packaging multiple picks to move up (in the process selecting  Derek ForbortTyler Toffoli, Alec Martinez, Colten Teubert, Andrew Campbell, Jean-Francois Berube, Maxim Kitsyn, Nicholas Shore), Lombardi still drafted more players than any other team besides the NY Islanders over this rebuilding period. 

In 2011, however, they not only lacked extra draft picks, but dealt their first rounder. 

The Los Angeles Kings are entering a new phase: players acquired for picks, not picks for players. They're a playoff team now, not a cellar-dweller. They can't count on high draft position any longer. And, with fewer swings at bat, it becomes more difficult for the scouting staff to beat the odds and reach Lombardi's goal: drafting at least two future NHL players per year.

By inviting undrafted players to development camp, Futa and company hope to pick up extra picks for free. Martin Jones, the #3 goalie on the Kings' depth chart, is an example of one such successful find. Could there be another welcome surprise this year? Let's take a look at some of the invitees.

A full list can be found here.  I'll start with five names that intrigue me.

Star-divide

1. D Alex Roach, 6'4", 227 lbs., 18 years old; Calgary Hitmen (WHL)

Ranked 142nd among North American skaters by Central Scouting

This kid fits Futa's description of a player who could easily have gone in the later rounds. After a slow start to his rookie season, Roach came on strong to earn a CSS ranking after not even making the list at midterm. 

Scouts put Roach on NHL list: Hitmen Hockey

By [the holiday break], Roach had improved his foot speed and was making better decisions with the puck on the offensive and defensive side [...]. 

The [...] team decided to trade their older players at the trade deadline, which afforded [Roach]  much more ice time. At the end of the season, Roach was logging about 20 minutes per game [...].

Roach finished the season with 16 points, four goals and 12 assists in 61 games. At 6-4, 225 lbs, Roach was not shy about making his presence known, and collected 77 penalty minutes.

Just a few months later, Roach was ranked 142nd on the NHL's central scouting draft list.

Roach seems like he's just starting to put it together in terms of his skating and conditioning, which leaves room for even more growth. As we saw with the Toffoli pick, the Kings have given the nod to guys who are willing to take the next step to improve those issues. Roach skipped attending the draft to graduate from school and "work on his physical fitness and his foot speed with Mills assistant coach Brian Kozak."

Bonus points? He looks like a long-faced Dustin Brown.

Other Calgary Hitmen in the system: Martin Jones, Brandon Kozun

2.  D Colin Miller, 6'1", 173 lbs., 18 years old; Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL)

Ranked 148th among North American skaters by Central Scouting (midterm rank: 191th)

Miller had a long and winding road to major junior, but also has a fierce advocate in the Greyhounds' GM:

Hounds' Miller hopes to hear name called Saturday: The Sault Star

Dubas praised Miller, saying Ryan Murphy, the Kitchener Rangers star defenceman expected to go early in the first round, "might be the only better skater than Miller among defencemen in this draft."

Further, Dubas said: "There aren't many defencemen who can skate and move the puck like him. He can fly."

[...]

"If he does [get drafted], I think it'll be between the fifth and seventh rounds," the GM added. "And clearly, you can project Colin as an NHL player."

Here's another write-up:

Miller was hopeful that he would hear his name called in Minnesota, but realistic in that he might have to again prove himself. After just playing one season in the Ontario Hockey League [...] many felt his potential was just beginning to be seen.  In his first season with the Hounds, the 6'1" defenseman racked up 22 points in 66 games, and had a +/- rating of +2 on a team that finished out of the playoffs.

Other Soo Greyhounds in the system: Dwight King, Jake Muzzin, Jordan Nolan.

3. D Pierre Durepos, 5'11" or 6'1" (big difference!), 180 lbs., 19 years old; Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL)

Career Stats at Elite Prospects

Durepos is noted for his steady play; his team just won the Memorial Cup (defeating Maxim Kitsyn's squad, Mississauga). His role on that high-profile team offered a chance to be noticed:

Dogs defenceman gets his due: L'Etoile Shediac

"I didn't get drafted last year, but I didn't get down on myself,'' Durepos said. "I'm using it as extra motivation. Even though I've never been on that (Central Scouting) list, we have nine guys on there and that means there are lots of scouts at our games, and we can all do something to catch their eyes. We have to use that (extra exposure) to our advantage.'' 

The Kings had plenty of eyes watching that tournament; they must have seen something they liked.

Mayors Manor also asked him about the trials of being a ginger, among other things. Read up.

4. D Saverio Posa, 5'11, 171 lbs.,19 years old; Windsor Spitfires (OHL)

Career Stats at Elite Prospects

The knock on this kid is his size, but he's described as a reliable, stay-at-home defenseman who kills penalties and can log 20 minutes a night.  He was partnered with a highly-rated puckmover, Nashville prospect Ryan Ellis.

OHL Draft Eligible Players Blog

Posa likes to play a physical game, despite his size. He is very good in shielding the puck along the boards. He plays with intensity and heart, takes great pride in moving the puck up the ice, and puts a priority on winning battles in the defensive zone.

Here's an interview on the Spitfires website. Don't miss the bongo interludes.

He was twice selected as Windsor's player of the week --the last time in April, for an excellent finals game against Owen Sound.

Further reading: Five Questions with Saverio Posa

Wait, wait, wait...out of all 14 prospects, the first 4 who grab my eye are defensemen? Yes. Lombardi and co. didn't draft any this year, which shows remarkable restraint, don't you think?

5. G Matej Machovsky, 6'2", 187 lbs.,17 years old; Brampton Battalion (OHL)

Ranked 11th among North American goalies by Central Scouting (midterm rank: 3)

Career Stats at Elite Prospects

The theme of the Kings' goaltending system is "quality over quantity," but they could use a few more netminders in the pipeline.

This young Czech prospect seems to have flown under the radar, getting limited exposure in a backup role, but still put up good numbers regardless.

The Red Line Report put him above Christopher Gibson. While the Kings obviously disagree, here's the case they made for Matej:

As for Red Line's taste, we'll go with Matej Machovsky, who, like Honzik, is a Czech import already playing in North America. He came into his own after a November trade to Brampton, and had a very strong second half. Machovsky's confidence and game seemed to grow by leaps and bounds over the course of the season. He shows very quick reflexes and lateral movement to go along with fine size and physical tools. He could stand to be a bit quieter in net and has a tendency to kick out some big rebounds.

Machovsky was named to the OHL's second rookie team, and won the F.W. "Dinty" Moore Trophy, which goes to the rookie goaltender with the best goals-against average. I think I speak for us all when I hope that prize was filled with stew.

More info on the other invitees coming soon.

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Bonus points? He looks like a long-faced Dustin Brown.

Hahaha, holy shit.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

It's eerie

I bet he can’t work on his footspeed because he’s always falling down.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 7, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Nick Day-Lo and T-Toff get a chance to shine there!

I see we have a 6 D’s out of the group of 14 “Invited”. I thought we had a huge pipeline of D’s but I guess many of them have graduated and I can see the need for some depth there.

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 7, 2011 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha, yeah, I wondered how they were going to deal with their D prospect addiction. Voila!

Toffoli and Deslauriers are damn exciting.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 7, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

the pipeline has to be looking four or five years down the road, which is the main reason to add defensemen now.

doughty, johnson, scuderi, mitchell, greene, drewiske, martinez — that’s seven.

hickey, voynov and muzzin are ready now to a year from now.
deslauriers is probably a year or two away. (though i hope for a miracle, because I love him)
forbort and gravel are three years off.
we need some bodies to come up around 2015-16.

one way to measure depth is to see how many log-jams you have. for instance, martinez, hickey and voynov are all fighting for one spot, and deslauriers gets added to that mix soon. that’s four guys for one spot. if muzzin comes to camp better than last year (when he made the team, remember), who gets bumped? drewiske? greene? all three of hickey/martinez/voynov?

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Jul 7, 2011 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's One Thing that Caught my Eye
D Alex Roach, 6’4", 227 lbs., 18 years old

OMG, this guy is big will be a wall.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jul 7, 2011 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

At the end of the season, Roach was logging about 20 minutes per game

That would suggest he’s coachable. The size does jump out at ya, and he seems to have a little bit of a mean streak. Or lazy streak. Depends on how the penalty minutes are divided up I guess.

by defrim65 on Jul 7, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have taken on a lot of gigantor projects with footspeed issues this year.

Including Penner. Zing!

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

OU*ch!

Slow movin’ train

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jul 8, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair to Penner, everyone should have known that footspeed wasn’t part of his game. I still think that was a good pickup, regardless. The LW market doesn’t offer up someone who is everything to everybody. He still has serious skills.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not just a pretty face!

….. or IS HE?

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 8, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mmmm… stew.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 8, 2011 1:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I would battle really hard for that as long as it were sourdough.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alec Martinez re-signed for 2 years — wonder what the cap hit is.

Coolness.

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m guessing less than $1.5 mil.; i.e., a modest improvement over what he made last year. I can’t imagine Martinez had a lot of bargaining power, with Hickey, Voynov, etc. more than happy to take his spot.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 8, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Around a million seems right…

Even if we don’t keep him, he’s worth more as a trade chip when signed on a contract. /coldblooded

The real attached fan side of myself is really happy and wants to somehow keep all of them. :)

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martinez’s contract is worth $737,500 per season.

That seems cheap.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jul 8, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit! That’s an even lower cap hit? Uhhh!
 
I would pay that much for one Alec smile.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

…I’m guessing Martinez’s agent isn’t familiar with Corsi. Even given his sheltered role, he killed it compared to JJ. GREAT value signing.

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would pay that much for one Alec smile.

Martinez looks like a cross between Brady Quinn and Kermit the Frog.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jul 8, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES, and

he’s one of the few remaining Kings who falls under “Genuinely cute” and “Capable of human expressions.”

Google images proof.

So what if the IMDB Alec pops up too. Just proves my point…

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And as long as we’re doing King equivalencies, Penner is Pam’s first fiancee on The Office.

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

ROY!!!

"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner

by card_base on Jul 8, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Nick Day-Lo = Ellen Degeneres?

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 8, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He deserves a new headshot. Or he needs to TRY to grow a beard.

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 8, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’ll be funky-dancing over the tears of his enemies

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hehe

You have SafeSearch on, don’t you?

by dope smile on Jul 8, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Who doesn’t? Haha.

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK you’re right, I forgot guys are pervs

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

‘pops up’ is hilarious now

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Low standards, wants to avoid conflict and confrontation (arbitration) at all costs…

Does he have a sister?

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 8, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he does, I’m cutting to the head of the line. :-)

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 8, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derek Zona just posted a nice rundown of broadcasting teams on the SBNation main NHL page

On a scale of 1-4, he gives Bob & Jim 4 stars, and the Ducks team 1 star. So we Kings fans are not alone in finding Brian Hayward insufferable. :-)

He also rates Pete Weber and Terry Crisp of the Preds quite highly. A couple of seasons ago, I was listening to the Kings’ radio feed of a game in Nashville; I guess Weber and Nick are still buddies from the days when Weber was Bob’s color analyst, so without warning they switched places before the second period. So Pete and Daryl called the entire second period on the Kings’ side, and I guess Nick and Terry Crisp did the Nashville broadcast. It was good to hear him again.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 8, 2011 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought he was dead on. I get stuck with rival broadcasts all the time on Center Ice, or catch Eastern games early, so I’ve heard my share.

It also made me realize that 80% of the time when I can’t stand a broadcast, it’s because of the color guy. I LIKE PLAY BY PLAY, DAMMIT. That seems to be a dying art.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hayward is just as bad in my beer league as he is at broadcasting…

What Would JeZus do?

by Jack-Handy on Jul 8, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

When an opponent goes down does he offer his opinion on wether the guys faking it?

by defrim65 on Jul 8, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I still maintain that the Ducks TV crew is nothing compared to their 2 radio sycophants. And annoying voices, which on the radio is a big disadvantage.

by Passemoilapuck on Jul 8, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I can't say that I dislike Ahlers

I think he’s mediocre, but I don’t actively dislike him. The main thing is that I just can’t get out of my head the time he tried sporting facial hair, and it made him look like the Star Trek Mirror Universe version of himself. It was disturbing.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 8, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't say I like Weber

In fact I’ve found him to be grating … his play by play feels slow and irritating.

of course, I’m comparing him to Miller which could be the problem right there.

by Matt George on Jul 9, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s interesting, when I commented about Weber, Zona replied saying that he had gotten a lot of feedback that was either strongly for or against Weber, and implied that there wasn’t a strong majority either way. So maybe he’s just one of those broadcasters that you’re either really going to like or really going to dislike.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 9, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well…. Apparently, someone sent Pete Weber a link to Derek’s article, because I got an email from him thanking me for my comment about him. So either it’s a really quiet off-season, or he at least deserves some props for being fan-friendly. :-)

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Jul 11, 2011 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t hear about stuff like that happening too often.

"After months of reading other people’s catchy sigs (like yours), I decided I needed one, too." -- DougX

by VoluminousTuna on Jul 11, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is super cool.

Me, personally? I love the Preds team. I listen to them when I get shut out of a FSW feed (which happens more often than it should) but I always found them extremely fair. I value that.

When people complain about the broadcast teams that I like, it’s usually because we have entirely different criteria. I hate homerism, I hate lack of play by play, and I hate blather. Some people like homerism or voices that are “high energy” or what have you. These are the same types that will complain if Bob Miller flubs a name, while their broadcast’s play-by-play is almost non-existent. Or they care more about Fox’s voice quirks more than what he is actually saying.

I’m in total sympathy with Zona’s preferences, so I agree with that list on every point. Everyone has their druthers.

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by Niesy on Jul 11, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. Come to think of it — I was reared on Bob Miller and Nick Nickson as a child, so they have obviously molded my preferences. I give thanks for their excellent work and years of service. You, too, Jimmy.

We are so fortunate.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 11, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the Ice now at TC

Looks like the “top” prospects are here already

2 goalies: Jones, Gibson

12 skaters including: Muzzin, Gravel, Deslauriers, Vey, Czarnik, Kanuisto

Didn’t have a roster with me so not sure about the others.

by Stan254 on Jul 8, 2011 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, you get to be there? Jealous.

Keep us updated if you can!

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by Niesy on Jul 8, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll be there tomorrow, so I’ll try to post as often as I can.

"After months of reading other people’s catchy sigs (like yours), I decided I needed one, too." -- DougX

by VoluminousTuna on Jul 11, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by Niesy on Jul 11, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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