"Kind of beer bellyish"?
Fan snaps unflattering photo of Dustin Penner: "Looked kind of beer bellyish." | Edmonton Journal
Hockey fan Mariah C, who goes by @camfaller on Twitter, took a photograph of former Oiler and current Los Angeles King forward Dustin Penner last week, one that doesn’t show Penner in his best light. If the image is to be believed, Penner is, well, somewhat rotund heading into the 2011-12 hockey season. Here is what Mariah said of her Penner photograph: "That picture was just taken on Saturday. I was personally a bit surprised by his stomach. Looked kind of beer bellyish." The image was posted on the PuckDaddy blog of Greg Wyshynki [sic]. What has Mariah heard from Kings fans? "Surprisingly, I got no responses from Kings fans. Besides my dad who eye-rolled and said ‘Aw shit."
Here's a response for you:
- A guy volunteers his time, and his name, to support a charity event raising money to fight brain cancer, and you take the opportunity to snap photos of him with his shirt off and publish them on the internet because you think he's fat?
- Hockey players are known for giving back to their communities. In theory, that "community" includes you. Show some respect.
- I see (from your Facebook page) that you are an 18 year old Ducks fan. When you grow up, maybe you'll get why it's wrong to invade peoples' workplace and attempt to expose what you perceive to be their short-comings, and/or embarrass them publicly -- at the expense of their careers, no less -- for your own amusement.
- All professional athletes have a weight problem. It's called having to perpetually deprive and exert oneself in order to be in the elite physical condition required to perform Herculean feats every two days for ten or twenty years running, while normal people are happily pounding down mass quantities of potato skins and beer (or pick your poison) and surreptitiously snapping funny pictures of celebrities with their phones.
- Unless you're a physically flawless specimen of human conditioning -- which, hey, maybe you are -- I would be careful. People in glass houses, etc.
- People already think Ducks fans are stupid. You're not doing yourself any favors.
- Actually, I take that back. I don't think a real hockey fan would do something like that.
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She looks like Snooki
Hey Foxy, would you call that a doh-si-doh or a dipsy doodle?
by Lilly on Aug 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
No, no
Serious journalists must demand shirtless pics of every player because um
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by Niesy on Aug 29, 2011 6:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I have to disagree with you, Quisp
The issue isn’t the fact that this person snapped an unflattering picture at a charity event. The issue is that Penner looks like one of my drinking buddies mere weeks before a contract year. (Plus, it’s sort of asking for it when you walk around in public with a bare midriff.) Good on Penner for giving back to the community. But for a guy very familiar with criticism about his desire and physical fitness, it doesn’t look like he’s giving his all to prove the critics wrong.
Oh, one more thing: If I were earning $4 million per year, I would happily deprive and exert myself in order to be in the elite physical condition required to perform Herculean feats every two days for ten or twenty years running.
by King of Saskatchewan on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions
For me, the issue IS that this person took and disseminated this picture, knowing that she had a little morsel of "gotcha" gold because in the picture Penner doesn't have a sixpack.
If I were to forget about that for a moment and pretend that this is a piece of investigative journalism, I would say, hmm, the picture is unflattering, but — then — so what? I’m sure I could take unflattering pictures of lots of people if I took enough pictures and selected the ones that proved my point. I’m happy to give Dustin Penner his privacy and let him “prove the critics wrong” on the ice, not to mention in the fitness testing that is right around the corner. An Edmonton paper reporting on a Ducks fan cattily circulating fat Penner pictures is just being bitchy. If Penner is out of shape, we will all know soon enough. He knows that. Everybody knows it. I don’t need Penner to look like he’s giving his all in every candid phone picture some twit takes of him.
Why he’s walking around with his shirt off is another issue entirely, but I don’t think I’m qualified to comment on it.
As far as your “one more thing”: yes, I sympathize with this line of reasoning, and acknowledge that people frequently use it to justify criticizing athletes or other famous people with standards that they would never apply to themselves. I’m sure I have done it myself. The problem is that he’s getting that money because that’s the market for a gigantic, skilled 20-30 goal scorer with a cup ring, in his prime. Whether he chooses to piss it away or not will impact what he gets paid in the future. But he’s earned what he’s getting right now.
Wait till this year.
Looks can deceive when it comes to athletes at this level
For Lombardi, working out is not about cosmetics, it’s about endurance and strength. It’s about being able to withstand a long season and, (in the shorter term, still having gas in the tank to burn late in the third period, when the other team is feeling it in their legs.
Anyone who follows football is familiar with the 320-pound lineman who looks like a bowling ball mounted on chopsticks, but who is fit, strong and quick as a cat (Warren Sapp, anyone?). Fernando Valenzuela won the Cy Young Award (and Rookie of the Year) with a gut that hung over his belt. Similarly, I don’t put too much significance into Dustin Penner (or Drew Doughty for that matter) looking pudgy. As I said below, Dean Lombardi said he was pleased with Penner’s off-season work, and that’s good enough for me.
"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly
I don’t think it’s out of line tocritique a professional athlete on their physique – especially when that particular athlete’s level of conditioning is a newsworthy question heading into the season. I think it’s one of the few areas in an athlete’s life that is fair game.
And though it may have been a charity event, it was still a public event – she didn’t sneak a picture where he had a reasonable expectation of privacy (like his backyard).
Anyways, if he is carrying extra fat, that may say something about his current cardio-vascular shape, but says nothing about his muscle strength, which from what I understand was the main emphasis of his summer workouts. He may be pure muscle underneath a tubby exterior – like a grizzly bear wearing hockey pads.
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Redundant?
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by whine_country on Aug 29, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I know beer belly. Beer belly is a friend of mine. Mariah, that is no beer belly.
It is that thing that I sent to you.
by whine_country on Aug 29, 2011 7:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
to the Edmonton Journal and the "Ducks fan" that snapped this picture
HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAAHHAAHAHHAA
*coughcough
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!
You wanna tell me that to mah face?!
YET ANOTHER Detroit Red Wings blog.
Well, whichever way this goes I don’t imagine it is going to end well for Mariah C. I hope she’s fine tuning her battle raps because once everyone on Hammond’s site get a hold of her Twitter address and email she is going to need a pretty sharp tongue…
Oh, and who in the hell is Cam Faller?
Here’s a response for you:
A guy volunteers his time, and his name, to support a charity event raising money to fight brain cancer, and you take the opportunity to snap photos of him with his shirt off and publish them on the internet because you think he’s fat?
Really? It’s not as if he was out breaking his back helping to clean up the highways or painting over graffiti. He played in a hockey game. Sure it’s for charity and he isn’t getting paid but that is hardly the same as doing volunteer work.
If he was out teaching inner city kids to play or at a children’s hospital delivering toys to cancer-stricken kids and some Ducks fan took a picture like that to ridicule him that would be one thing. But he was doing what he loves, playing hockey.
Of course he does not have to do things like that, but when you are making $4 million per year to play sports that is just about literally the absolute least you can possibly do.
For Christ's sake
It’s volunteer. It’s for a cause. Are you really going to take the time to value certain acts of kindness better than others? It shouldn’t make any difference what you’re contributing towards as long as you’re contributing. Additionally, Penner playing in a charity game probably would do more good than picking up trash, he’s actually usually his talents for good. Wouldn’t you expect a doctor to provide free medical care if they were going to do charity? Or a lawyer to take a pro bono case?
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by hughestom1 on Aug 29, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I’m a lawyer and I do pro bono work all the time. It’s quite different to do pro bono work than it is to go play in a charity hockey game. I have to work equally hard whether I am being paid for my services as a lawyer or I am giving them away. In fact, if I didn’t work as hard when doing pro bono work I’d very likely be disbarred.
Same goes for a doctor doing charity work. Screw up and you’re still going to be held liable for malpractice.
A hockey player playing in a charity game is not really playing hockey in the same sense as a hockey player playing in an NHL game (or any professional level). They are out having fun, screwing around.
To compare a professional hockey player taking a couple hours out of his summer to go for a skate and have some fun with other professional hockey players (and probably celebrities, though I don’t know the exact nature of this charity game) and in the process happen to raise some money against a lawyer donating time from his or her work week when they could otherwise be getting paid to do very difficult work, while still doing very difficult work, but doing it out of the kindness of their heart is insulting to me as a lawyer and I would think anyone else who does real charity work.
Oh, and by the way, I am a human rights attorney, not some big hit shot corporate lawyer. So I don’t get paid well anyway and for me to take time out and go do pro bono work is not like my firm pays me to go take on charity cases as an expected part of my gig.
Part of the job description for professional athletes is that from time to time they are gonna go do charity work. It’s part of why they get so much money. They don’t just get paid to play on game night.
Actually, no.
The job description for a hockey player is to play hockey. Doing charity events is…surprise
No wonder human rights suck, what with you arguing for them.
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I get your point, but it's pretty uncharitable.
Lots of people do much less than the absolute least they can do.
Yes, people resent big salaries. Let’s see if he earns his before we attack him for being rich.
Wait till this year.
I’m not attacking him for being rich. I’m simply making the point that we should not pretend that professional athletes taking a few hours from their summer vacation (which no other job really gets, aside from teachers, and even they often have to take a summer job to get by) makes them super charitable angelic people. They are out having fun and, huzzah, in the process raising some cash for charity, but there is no question that certain types of volunteer work are different than others.
So, they should all just skip the fundraisers? Something tells me that also would not go over well.
They’re still donating their time to help raise money for a cause. I don’t know why that needs to be knocked for any reason. Frankly, you sound weird.
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by Niesy on Aug 30, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
that is hardly the same as doing volunteer work.
He is doing his job for free. It’s volunteer work.
Just because his job is cool doesn’t mean it isn’t work.
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Ok, so the next time I pick up a piece of garbage at the park as “volunteer work” I will go ahead and assume that’s in your eyes I have done something just as honorable as the folks working for Habitat for Humanity to build houses for poor people in Guatemala. Gotcha.
Holy Fuck. Just Stop.
Does every act of charity have to be the most monumental act ever?
If that’s the case, then anybody sending anything short of their life savings to the Red Cross should stop because it’s not worth our time.
I love how you announced that you do pro bono work too, as if to make you so much more of a humanitarian than the rest of us. However, based on your arguments here though, you’re probably a really shitty lawyer. I’ll make sure to turn down your free lawyering offer next time I get it.
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 30, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
BTW, that link to the Caps fan arguments re: Ovie’s middle posted above is EPIC.
I am so glad I got back just in time and didn’t miss this!
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by Niesy on Aug 29, 2011 9:51 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Another advantage of the black jerseys over the purple ones? WAY more slimming!
/crossthread
by Passemoilapuck on Aug 29, 2011 10:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Well, except for that midriff jersey Penner was wearing there.
by Passemoilapuck on Aug 30, 2011 3:09 AM PDT up reply actions
A little off subject, but I was thinking.
I had been listening to a guy I know through friends (personally can’t stand the guy), bad mouthing a charity event where rich people payed this outrageous amount of money for a plate of food, with proceeds going to cancer victims.
This guy, sat around smoking pot all day, worked in this headshop selling paraphernalia, never to my knowlege even donated his time to anything more than a court ordered work program, and yet had the audacity to criticize them for being rich, and not giving what they should (which was more than he ever did in an entire lifetime).
Why is it that only the poor are considered noble when they give, and yet the rich aren’t? The people with cancer don’t know where the money comes from, just that someone helped. It seems as though the rich give more in most cases, but it’s never enough.
by defrim65 on Aug 29, 2011 10:46 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Can’t say squat when you have a beer belly yourself, if the guy doesn’t perform then rip him, for now it doesn’t mean anything.
by DodgersKings323 on Aug 30, 2011 3:17 AM PDT reply actions
If that beer belly (accompanied by his fat ass) helps him clear people in front of the net
Then I don’t really give a shit about the beer belly…
The more you drink, the less gruesome I look.
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Quisp wrote:
Unless you’re a physically flawless specimen of human conditioning — which, hey, maybe you are…
I applaud you for taking the high road on that one Quisp, as clearly (CLEARLY) you can see the girl is at least35 pounds overweight. Look at the arms, the doublechin, the neck, elbows and waistline.
But … whatever. Post as she may- Ducks will be looking up the Kings shorts all season long.
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I noticed Penner’s face. Quite jowly at the end of the season, it now appears lean in the photo. Perhaps the gut is the last to go.
Agreeing with Garrett I feel the conditioning controversy makes the photo fair game and provides an interesting topic of conservation.
I do not consider this an ambush. A public event should not give a personality “King’s X” (unless it’s a benefit for a sperm bank).
Claiming to be a Duck’s fan however makes Snooki II fair game.
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This is dumb. A lot of professional athletes have strange or imperfect bodies because their goal isn’t to have a perfect body, but to be the best in the world at what they do. If you ever saw a picture of Lance Armstrong in his prime he looked lean yes, because his job was to ride his bike hundreds of miles a week. However, he had a weirdly large upper torso from having enormous lungs and no abs or pecs or shoulders to speak of at all.
Who cares if he has a half inch of fat over (I’m guessing) crazy muscle. If he can throw his weight around in front of the crease then that’s what’s important.
I was sitting behind her after she took the picture
Come on guys, this is at least a little bit funny. The fact that it’s become an international incident is hilarious. Edmonton must be ridiculously boring without hockey. And you know if you saw a picture of Corey Perry (or Bobby or Getzy) with a gut, it would garner the same gleeful reaction amongst Kings fans. Why is anyone surprised that a Ducks fan hates Penner?
Right before she took the picture, I was remarking on how Penner was missing his jowls and was looking slimmer. Positive things said by a Ducks fan?! I must be drunk. The picture is dead on forward facing, and unless you’re Marisa Miller or Gisele, it’s going to be unflattering.
Layoff the personal attacks. She’s being a fan like everyone else.
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by Jen Neale on Aug 30, 2011 10:58 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
Layoff the personal attacks
Tell me how much I suck
You’re awesome.
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by whine_country on Aug 30, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d rather be attacked where I can defend myself. Call me crazy but people are much more brave on the Internet.
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by Jen Neale on Aug 31, 2011 7:49 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
cry babies much?
are you guys serious??? who cares what she said. he does have a beer belly. and is that surprising for a professional athlete to have a beer gut? uhh yeah. you’re all fucking pathetic for attacking someone you dont even know because shes a ducks fan. kings fans will forever be the lowest class fans in the nhl. ill never have respect for your fan base because you’re all jokes. all these little blogs of yours just proves it. id feel sorry for you if i thought you were worth it.
this whole situation was blown out of proportion. all this girl did was post a picture of penner while she was at the fedorin. the fact you all gave it so much attention blows my mind. id hate to be the kind of loser who even writes up articles about this shit. i wish i could puke all over your disgusting lives.
you seem to be confused by what a blog is and/or what an article is
As far as I can tell, the story so far is this:
Penner went to a charity event. A girl thought he looked fat and decided it would be fun — and/or would get herself some attention — if she posted a picture of the fatness on the internet. The reason she thought it would be “fun” is that she’s a Ducks fan and the fat guy is a Kings player. Subsequently, a newspaper covering another rival of the Kings decided it would be fun to share the fat photo with its readers. At this point, the fat photo is an international news story, having been picked up by the Edmonton Journal, Yahoo Sports, Puck Daddy, and others. The girl who took the picture publicly (via twitter) delights in her growing fame. “Tee hee, my picture is everywhere” etc… This of course is the point.
She also indicates that she hasn’t gotten any response from Kings fans.
I respond to her. My response is, posting unflattering pictures of people on the internet is immature and classless. That’s a fact.
You say the situation has been blown out of proportion. The story certainly has not gotten BIGGER since the Edmonton Journal article. And if you look at the tweets of the “photographer” it’s clear that she’s thrilled by the attention and also that the wide dissemination of the picture was the whole point.
All I did was say, you’e rude. The commenters on this post added the (predictable, if you ask me) observation that the girl who called Penner fat is fat. This is Irony 101.
Also, I think you’re over-estimating the amount of attention anyone is paying to this. Maybe it’s just much harder for you to type short comments than it is for the people commenting here.
Wait till this year.
You weren’t there; love how you talk as if you were. She never once called him fat. Obviously like a good blogger you’ve learned to twist someone’s words! Whoop dee doo. She said it looks beer bellyish and it does indeed look beer bellyish. Second, she never asked for your opinions. She just said kings fans hadn’t reacted. It’s really unfortunate that you guys decided to let the stupid out in droves like this. No reputable blog should even be bringing the original poster into it.
Allow me to address your "points" one by one
I am not talking as though I’m there. I’m going off of what she said and what the media has reported.
1) no she said he had a beer belly. She isn’t saying she thinks his belly is full of beer. She’s saying what she has photographed IS fat. That’s a way of calling someone fat, as you know. I am calling it what it is. In the context of being a professional athlete, she’s saying he’s fat.
2) she never asked for our opinions? maybe i don’t understand the rules. did she think she was making a private diary entry?
3) “no reputable blog should even be bringing the original poster into it” — this sentence is indecipherable. Who is the original poster? Your friend? There is no bringing her into it. She is in it. She MADE THE ORIGINAL “REPORT.”
Wait till this year.
Kings fans are truly hilarious.
The girl tweeted a picture and it can taken out of control, what people aren’t allowed to have opinions?
PENNER is not the epitome of dedicated!!! Never has been since he was with the Ducks, nobody was even calling him a bad player, but idiot kings fans, first tried to say it was an old picture, then they go and attack someones credibility because of a team they are a fan of?
ROFL. get real idiots, it’s no different than u calling Getzlaf bald, get lives.
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And your single with Santana made you look fat.
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You must all feel intensely threatened by that picture to resort to childish name calling of the original poster. As the saying goes, don’t shoot the messenger. She merely presented you with information, a picture, and commented with “it looks kind of beer-bellyish.” Are you all so delusional that you disagree?
I’m mostly alarmed at the pettiness you have all shown by talking shit about her on your blog here. No nerve to even let her know this was going on. Just back room gossip. A blog like this can’t even be taken seriously anymore. Congrats.
Not to mention, if you all have this much time to spend talking shit about a girl on twitter, I have serious reservations about the productivity of your lives. Grow up, get jobs maybe? Or at least find something better to do. I heard knitting is a great hobby.
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Wait, posting a picture and calling somebody fat isn't petty...
…but making fun of somebody who makes fun of others is?
What the fuck world am I living in?
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
She said it looks kind of “beer bellyish”. About an athlete who’s inevitably going to be judged on things like weight anyway. I hardly count saying someone kinda has a beer belly as making fun of them. All the other unnecessary shit that was said in here is ridiculous. News flash- personally attacking her isn’t taking Dustin’s beer belly away. So try growing up and focusing on your player’s problem (or non-problem if it doesn’t bother you) as opposed to some kid on the Internet.
I hardly count saying someone kinda has a beer belly as making fun of them.
Sure, you don’t.
So try growing up and focusing on your player’s problem (or non-problem if it doesn’t bother you) as opposed to some kid on the Internet.
You mean our player’s problem as reported by the kid on the internet? You’re acting like she’s an innocent by-stander. She sought whatever attention she’s getting. And I think you’re overstating the level of attack and/or attention being paid.
But I appreciate the fact that you bothered to register here to make your comments. Welcome to the community.
Wait till this year.
Don't pretend "the original poster" is Woodward and Bernstein when
she’s just a twit exploiting her proximity to a celebrity by publishing a funny fat picture of him on the internet. She’s not “merely presenting [me] with information.” She’s being catty and hurtful in service of her own desire for 10 seconds of fame.
Wait till this year.
wait: "no nerve to even let her know this was going on" ??
It’s not back-room gossip. It’s a public response to her public “investigative journalism.” I don’t have to notify her of the fact that I am responding to her own entry into the public dialogue. I don’t have to notify Penner either.
There’s nothing “back-room” about it.
In case you don’t understand how the internet or sports blogs work: this was a story in a major newspaper. I linked to the article and commented on the article. If your photojournalist friend wants to track her “story,” she can Google herself. Which I’m sure she’s doing.
Wait till this year.
You didn’t bother to directly tell her this was going on. Pansy status. That’s my point. She shouldn’t have to google and see that LAK fans are wasting their day talking shit about her just because she tweeted a picture. At the end of the day, that’s all it is. A picture. One that you guys are using to justify talking shit about a Ducks fan.
If you can continually dismiss making fun of her then this is going nowhere. Just know your average person thinks it’s ridiculous. Obviously I don’t expect much more from LAK fans but anyone else would be appalled. Personal attacks are uncalled for and I’ll maintain that whether you want to mention 15 more times that she’s getting her “10 seconds of fame”. Which I can guarantee she doesn’t even care about.
Pansy status? You're incoherent and irrational.
This very blog post which you are reading IS DIRECTLY TELLING HER THIS IS GOING ON. This IS the notification. On top of which — by the way — the article tagged her via Twitter, which is her medium of reportage, I gather.
There is no “you guys.” There is me, it’s my blog, responding to your friend’s “information.” Then there are the commenters on this post. I guess I will have to go back and reread the comments, but my impression was that the ones that have to do with your friend (most have to do with the nature of charity and don’t mention your friend at all) are along the lines of “hey the girl who says penner is fat is fat!”
If she didn’t foresee this as an inevitable outcome of posting skarky fat pictures of people on the internet, then she has bigger problems.
I’m not dismissing “making fun of her.” I’m just saying it was inevitable, and isn’t even off-limits given that she made herself famous for making fun of people.
The average person, I’m quite sure, thinks that people who make fun of fat people are mean and that when other people make fun of people who call people fat, by noticing that they themselves are fat, this is called “getting what you deserve.”
Personal attacks are uncalled for
Exactly.
her "10 seconds of fame". Which I can guarantee she doesn’t even care about
Actions speak louder than words. There is simply no reason to post snarky pictrues of celebrities on the internet — via TWITTER no less — other than to get attention. Read her tweets. They are publicly available.
Wait till this year.
How dare you make a comment about somebody publicly commenting on the Internet!
Nobody ever comments on your public work!
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also...
is there some way we can re-name Bri to “Pansy Status”?
by 88fingerslukee on Aug 31, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, Bri
I went and reread the comments. Imagine my shock in learning that there are all of THREE comments out of 60 which make what could be construed as mean comments about your friend. There are more comments from Kings fans defending your friend. An overwhelming number of comments don’t involve her at all.
And THEN
the Ducks trolls arrive in defense of an attack they (you) then proceed to exaggerate beyond recognition.
For the record, here are ALL of the mean comments about your friend:
1) “She looks like Snooki”
2) “I didn’t know Snooki had a fat sister.”
3) she’s “at least 35 pounds overweight.”
90% of the comments ignore her completely. At worst, you’re condemning an entire fan-base for the comments of three people. And I would say the comments are literally just about the least anyone could reasonably have expected under the circumstances.
Wait till this year.
Awww man. I’m a troll? I think that means I’m fired at AC
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by Jen Neale on Aug 31, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
that's all part of the plan, so you can come work for us
yeah, i retract your troll status. sorry.
Wait till this year.
Is Everyone Mad Because She Wasn't a Professional Photographer?
If this picture were taken by an AP photographer, or some other “professional” photographer, would people go after him? Penner looks worse in the Dodger picture, but no one is howling about whomever took that one.
Penner was at a charity event – it was a public venue. Is there some strange rule where photography is not allowed during charity events? Someone took his picture. Whether or not it was by a professional photographer, blogger, PR person, or fan who uses twitter, it’s irrelevent. Penner does look fat in the picture. Big deal. The time to evaluate will be during the season.
It’s a public venue, yes. But she makes her own decision to post on Twitter. Then she speaks to a newspaper about it. This is putting something out there on a bigger stage.
She wasn’t an official photographer just going about her job. She tweeted Puck Daddy, and they (or at least, Ryan Lambert) posted it. From there, the Edmonton Journal picked it up. I think she knew it would get attention, or at least hoped it would, by making it public; the very fact that she’s talking to an actual news publication about later in the day might have given her a clue. She played an active role in making her snapshot into a story.
If she didn’t know it would draw attention and criticism, she’s either ignorant or naive. I sympathize because she’s so young, she may not have thought all the ramifications through. Maybe they took advantage of the fact that she’s technically an adult. I question the standards of the Edmonton Journal, but I have no idea what they told her.
The whole thing seems sad and weird.
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by Niesy on Sep 1, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
THIS
Thanks.
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