I Disagree with Bobby Scribe

by Quisp on Aug 3, 2011 7:34 PM PDT in Doughty Contract

Shea Weber, Drew Doughty & Market Value " S U R L Y & S C R I B E L.A. Kings Hockey Blog
Shea Weber received an award of $7.5 million for one season. That makes him the highest paid defenseman in the league. For one season. That does not establish "market" value for top defensemen who seek contracts for more than a season, anymore than Surly getting lucky with a hot, drunk, 20 something year old blonde who is angry at her ex boyfriend, on one random night establishes his target market for the rest of his potential scores.

Surly, having enjoyed the company of the hot, drunk, twenty-something angry-at-her-ex-boyfriend blonde, might well decide to hold out till he gets a similar deal long-term, no matter how much his friends counseled him to the effect of "you've got to be f-ing kidding me."

Also, in this analogy, Surly needs to believe he is much hotter and younger than the ex-boyfriend.

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that the two situations are not entirely comparable. This is only a one year contract for Weber. That does not mean Drew should get the same for several years. Remember that management is taking a greater risk with a longer contract.

by Steve S. on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 PM PDT reply actions

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On a short term deal Drew would make less, on a longer deal drew would make more. Remember Drew is only 21, hasn’t reached his potetial or the UFA age yet. A long term contract would cut into years he could be an UFA and demand even more. Dean said in the interview after the Mike Richards press conference that he could be comfortable making Drew the highest paid King if the terms were right. He said if Drew gave up some UFA years he could be more flexable that way.

by Osaka19 on Aug 5, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions

actually, i think it's a little bit of both

drew likely wants and lombardi doesn’t want a four year contract, that being the one that takes him right up to earliest possible UFA status. i would think there is almost nothing that would make lombardi do a four year deal, not even drew agreeing to take less than $5MM per year. but shorter than four and longer than four the numbers go up.

Wait till this year.

by Quisp on Aug 5, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Youth, and looks might not matter if Surly is well endowed.

by defrim65 on Aug 3, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions

Is he pulling his wang out and waving it around the bar?

…Seriously, does that work? I’m willing to give it a shot.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Aug 3, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions

That sounds like the start of a really funny Islanders joke.

So Garth Snow and Mike Milbury walk into a bar…

by El Gallo Negro on Aug 4, 2011 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

What if Bobby woke up and find just an arm?

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Aug 4, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course Weber's deal is relevant.

I don’t think Drew will get 7.5 on a 1 or 2 year deal but on a longer term contract his agent could ask for that in year 3 or 4. Drew is only 21 so if he signs a 10 year deal he is not going to make 1 mil the last 3 year of the contract. Since he hasn’t reached his potential I don’t think it should be front loaded, but end loaded. Say he get a 10 year 7.37 cap hit: 5.8, 5.9, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5, 9, 9.5. In 10 years 9.5 will be a good deal. Now Weber’s contract can turn that 5.8 into a 6.5. Drew’s agent can say OK he isn’t asking 7.5 but a million less……

by Osaka19 on Aug 5, 2011 7:23 AM PDT reply actions

Come what may, I still think a deal will be reached either later today or over the weekend, because I’m still out of town and won’t be home until Sunday night.

"I think you just outed yourself as Dean Lombardi. I knew it all along." — Rudy Kelly

by DougX on Aug 5, 2011 8:08 AM PDT reply actions