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Matt Moulson: "plucked from obscurity"

UNIONDALE NY - FEBRUARY 19:  Matt Moulson #26 of the New York Islanders rolls on the ice celebrating his third period goal as PA Parenteau #15 of the Islanders skates over to him and Matt Greene #2 and goalie Jonathan Quick #32 look dejected in an NHL hockey game at the Nassau Coliseum on February 19 2011 in Uniondale New York. Islanders won 3-0.  (Photo by Paul Bereswill/Getty Images)

That's us, by the way. "Obscurity."

Capellini: Matt Moulson Doesn't Get The Call, But Is Every Bit An All-Star To The Islanders " CBS New York

[...] You can make a serious case that as far as value goes, both to his team and on the dollar, [Matt Moulson] is just as deserving [as John Tavares] of a spot in Ottawa over the last weekend of January. [...] Moulson is having a career season, averaging nearly a point per game. The 28-year-old left wing has 21 goals, nine behind league leader Steve Stamkos, but just three behind second-place Phil Kessel. [...] Moulson is currently on pace for 40. That would be quite a feat all things considered. [...] Moulson has been asked to do quite a bit and he’s responded in a manner befitting an All-Star selection, even if he ends up watching the festivities from home. He may be one of the best bargains in the NHL. General Manager Garth Snow signed the unknown Moulson to a one-year deal prior to the 2009-10 season and all he’s done since is score 82 goals and register 141 points in a little more than 200 games. And he’s now locked up on the Island through the end of 2014 at slightly more than $3 million per season. What’s admirable about Moulson, in addition to his uncanny knack for knowing where to be on the ice at all times ...

Which I pointed out more than once. (Also, I love the picture that goes with that link.)

and his great chemistry with Tavares, is the fact that he’s emerged as a leader on a team sorely in need of just that. He’s become a spokesman [...[ and has kept an upbeat attitude despite [the team's woes]. Moulson has become one of the better snipers in the NHL, but his most telling statistic is his plus-9 rating on a team with a minus-31 goal differential.

The knock on Moulson in his time with the Kings was that he didn't play "on both sides of the puck."

[...] Moulson has 10 multi-point games, including a four-goal effort against Dallas on Dec. 3 that earned him the NHL’s First Star of the Week. Moulson’s aforementioned chemistry with Tavares is off the charts. I’m not sure if they are completing each other’s sentences yet in interviews, but they certainly don’t need a GPS to find each other on the ice. [...]

Oh, how Kings fans long for a winger who can be this for Anze Kopitar. The list of left-wingers who have moved in and out of that slot is pretty long: Moulson, Teddy Purcell, Oscar Moller, Andrei Loktionov, Simon Gagne, Dustin Penner, Alex Frolov, Marco Strum, Ryan Smyth, Dwight King, Scott Parse, Brad Richardson, Mike Cammalleri, Patrick O'Sullivan...who am I forgetting? There are certainly a few names on that list that are playing above their pay grade as a first line LW, but there are also several pretty potent scorers. I am inclined to say that the only one Kopitar showed sustained chemistry with is Smyth; Smyth-Kopitar-Williams was the best line in the league for a few minutes, after all; but then I remember that when Murray moved Smyth and Williams to the second line, then that line took off.

Anyway, as I have mentioned in the past, it's possible that the failure to find an LW1 to have that "Moulson/Tavares" chemistry with Kopitar, is not the fault of the wingers.

Moulson’s impact is not just coming at even strength. Heading into Monday, the Islanders’ power play was at 19.3 percent, seventh in the NHL, and showing a consistency it hasn’t shown in ages. [...] Moulson leads the Isles with seven power-play goals, two more than Tavares and just three off the league lead, and has added six assists. [...] Moulson has become the co-face of the franchise’s new look. And while the results have yet to approach the promise, the Islanders are in many ways climbing that ladder toward respectability and beyond. [...Moulson] is entering his prime and, really, the sky is the limit on what he will end up being. If you couple his innate hockey sense and skills with Tavares’ sheer ability, and throw in a player like Okposo, who may now be ready to take on the comparisons to Jarome Iginla, you could end up with one of the NHL’s best lines. [...] Moulson, who we must remember was plucked from relative obscurity, is as much a driving force in this team’s development as any ballyhooed first-round draft pick you could care to mention.

:)

By the way, I'm not blaming anyone for the loss of Moulson. Dean Lombardi made a choice, in the summer of 2009, between Teddy Purcell and Matt Moulson, and he chose Purcell. At the time, Lombardi had just traded for Ryan Smyth, which gave the Kings a left side of Smyth, Frolov, Purcell and Raitis Ivanans (don't get me started). So, unless you're advocating keeping Moulson in a bottom-six role on a Terry Murray team which had already ruled on Moulson's defensive chops, I don't think there's any way to decide to keep Moulson and then put him in a strictly defensive role. The next season, Frolov and Purcell were out, and Alexei Ponikarovsky and Kyle Clifford were in. And it's interesting to note that all three of Moulson, Purcell and Parse were Lombardi UFA signings out of the NCAA. The point being: no one drafted these guys. You can't blame Lombardi for letting Moulson and Purcell go without also giving him credit for signing them in the first place.

And though it's always painful to see one's cherished prospects flourish on someone else's team, it's pretty much a given that such players are most likely to get a chance to thrive on teams at the bottom of the standings. The Kings were (Smyth, Rob Scuderi...) upgrading and gearing up for being an actual playoff team, and have become that. Meanwhile, Moulson and Purcell are still on bottom-feeders in contention for the 2012 #1 overall pick.

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frustrating topic

even though I love Lombardi I can blame him for fucking this one up. First of all there is no coherent way you can justify having Ivanans on the roster over Moulson. There is no way Ivanans’ defensive chops were any better than Moulson’s. Also knowing that a decision was going to have to be made on Moulson’s future on the team he should have been allowed to play (over Nagy, Thornton, Calder) more than 29 games on the big club while the team was at the bottom of the standings given how productive he had been in the AHL.

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

ah…nagy, thornton, and calder…

excuse me while I drink some drain-o

"And in net, number 39, DAAAAAAN CLOOOOUTIER"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

by TradedForAPick on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree

Good write up Quisp. Never really tied it all together like that but makes sense now that you have.

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you.

Good, balanced discussion of one who got away. I actually have more regrets about Purcell, though, because he became a contributor on an actual playoff team.

To my mind, the Kings fans who have the most right to complain about Molson scoring his goals for someone else are the ones who actually supported him during his time here and were willing to give him a chance to grow into a first-line role. It should be remembered that the majority opinion on LAKI while Molson was actually in LA was that he sucked, based on the short amount of time that he got to play on the first line. Ditto with Purcell, who in the eyes of many could never do anything right even when he did something right.

"I see my life flashing before my eyes... and it's boring!." — Gumball Watterson

by DougX on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Parse

Good observation, I feel that way about Parse. How we handled Molson and Purcell has tempered my outlook on Parse.

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember at the GM breakfast two years ago iirc, DL made a point that Purcell had to get going that season. He didn’t and sadly went to TB where he has thrived.

by sstephen17 on Jan 19, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

By the way, I’m not blaming anyone for the loss of Moulson

Since you kept pointing out his potential on your blog way back when — I sure as heck do. He is young, Smyth is not.

A much bigger miss than the Purcell situation.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Niesy / Quisp

How about a posting about to trade or not to trade? Deadline is t-minus two weeks.

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

The working title I have is “If You Dare Trade Slava Voynov I’ll Shank You”

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

if the kings trade anyone outside of Jack Johnson I will tear this place apart

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

and I guess by this place i mean my house so hopefully that won’t happen

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

well I guess they could also trade matt greene, rob scuderi and kevin westgarth. but that’s it I’m serious.

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Greene too? I know it creates a hole for this season, but it could pave the way for a Mitchell resigning, which I’d rather have. And let’s face it, I don’t think losing him considerably changes our fortunes this season.

Edit: oh shit, I should keep reading.

But seriously, Scuderi? I’d like to keep him too.

by BobKnob on Jan 17, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

well one of scuderi, greene, johnson. the odds of any them being moved though is pretty low i think.

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I see

Well I see I’m not alone here in wanting to ved some ideas

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally

Personally I think anyone / everyone is up for conversation until you know what the other pieces being offered are. LA has a gluttony of defence and goal tending. From what I can see a few teams have needs of both. NJ, Buffalo, Edmonton, Tampa Bay … can go on and on but I’ll wait to see if there is a post about possible trade(s).

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a good idea. Especially vetting potential trade targets on a microstat level and beyond.

If people have suggestions we can take those too.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

It would all depend on what you could get for him. I love Voynov’s game and he was one of the nicer guys at the Meet the Players event (not that there was anyone who wasn’t, he just stood out to me). Young, puck moving d-men are always going to be a commodity.

by sstephen17 on Jan 19, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you don’t blame Lombardi for letting Moulson go (I sort of do), but I see it a bit differently. If you aren’t getting it right in the draft wrt forwards (and I can’t really say that he is has so far as I see it)…. then if you’re gonna take a flyer on Moulson, Moller, Purcell, etc, then someone had damned well better make the team.

I know I keep going back to this (no moderation thank you) but who is the architect of this team? If it’s someone else other than Lombardi, then I retract everything I say. But as I understand it, he’s the GM, therefore responsible for finding a way to make maybe not every position on the team work, but at least most of them.

Quisp, as for your comments wrt finding a match for Kopitar…. maybe you’re right that part of the issue is around the wingers who play with him….. but Kopi, while maybe not the easiest to play with (based on results), I have to believe that there are more than one or two players who could mesh quite well with him. I mean, it can’t be like finding a needle in a haystack can it?

by number 6 on Jan 17, 2012 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

I would say that Lombardi has been getting it right in the draft with forwards. Clifford and Simmonds come to mind right off the bat, and Toffoli, Vey, etc. look to be not so far behind.

I think part of the thing to remember with both Purcell and Moulson is that they had a real hard time fitting in with Terry Murray’s system, because neither of them were the greatest skaters. The knock of the two of them was that they didn’t keep their feet moving. I’m not sure that has changed as much as their environment.

by klink3115 on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

@klink and soccersucks

Guys, thanks for your comments. I really appreciate them. I, like many find the scoring issues frustrating and it’s true that it’s rarely black or white. So I figured that there are always extenuating circumstances. Everything both of you say makes sense.

That said…. you’re the GM? Know who your Coach Is! DL has to take responsibility for that too.
And Klink… one other thing. Wrt Toffoli I read somewhere that he was an easy cut from the Canada WJ team as supposedly he couldn’t keep up. Is it true? No idea, but it’s a bit too early to say he’s a lock to make it in the nhl. I’ll gladly be the first to give DL props if and when Toffoli turns into even a 20 goal scorer, never mind a true sniper.

And as for Clifford (and this probably isn’t fair), but if we’re talking about doing a bang up job drafting… both Lucic and Marchard were I believe third round choices. Certainly no earlier. Clifford has 3 goals so far (?). He doesn’t at this moment seem to have great hands or an outstanding knack around the net. It’s wonderful to have players like that on the team, but for a long time the team has had difficulty offensively…. not just this year. It’s just this year that it started becoming almost chronic. So my point is that they need a bit more than forwards who in the parlance of I don’t know who ‘are tough’ to play against.

by number 6 on Jan 17, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Read hfboards, I think. There’s about 5 threads on Team Canada World Jrs and I think the second one has the comments from observers re: Toffoli. It sounds to me like he has no problem taking full advantage of weak opponents in the OHL, but doesn’t do so well against more equal opponents. It sounds like he’s far from a sure thing. He may end up doing nothing. It’s too early to tell, but certainly too early to say it has or will be a success.

by BobKnob on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, except no.

sniping is sniping. he’s not overpowering people. he’s not blowing past people. he’s a shooter. a really good one.

by Quisp on Jan 18, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

If he has trouble keeping up with the best 19 year olds in his country, he’s probably going to have trouble keeping up with the best 19-42 year olds in the world.

It’s not that he just wasn’t skating as well as everyone else, he was shut down.

There are a lot of players in the OHL who will probably never make it to the AHL even. I’m sure a lot of his goals were against players like these who give him too much time and space. A good NHL defenseman will be all over his ass, so he’s going to have a harder time getting his opportunities.

I’m just saying it’s verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry far from a sure thing we have in Toffoli. Certainly too soon to say he’s going to end up as a good DL pick.

by BobKnob on Jan 18, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

there are no sure things, you are right about that.

but i wouldn’t put too much faith in what a bunch of “experts” on message boards say. p.s. toffoli was not shut down in the selection camp games — he scored two goals in the game the day before he was cut, — and the same rocket scientists who cut toffoli this year cut ryan nugent-hopkins the year before. and both of those teams lost, so etc. etc.

by Quisp on Jan 18, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If DL is the boss, then ultimately everything goes back to him,

but the real fault is TM’s. And I bitched about this forever on LAKI as BringBackTheShieldJersey that one of TM’s weaknesses was that he didn’t know what to do with forwards, especially young forwards that were not muckers. Not a single, young, offensive-minded forward worked under TM. None. TM’s got a reputation as a “teacher” but that’s largely crap; he couldn’t teach these guys how to make it work here, and thus largely forced DL’s hand into trading them. It’s an old debate, sorry. But I just don’t think that people understand the long-term negative impact that TM had on the Kings.

Not saying DS was the best hire, but at least TM's gone.

by soccersucks on Jan 17, 2012 5:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

he didn’t know what to do with forwards, especially young forwards that were not muckers

That’s a fair criticism.

You could even say that DL kept giving him players DL believed in, but TM didn’t feel the same way. As close as they were.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s so true it hurts

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by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Moller, Kozun, who else?

by BobKnob on Jan 17, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for the comprehensive list.

I was always wondering why DL would draft the Mollers, et al when all they talked about was “hard areas”, “heavy bodies”, “heavy sticks”, “net presence”, “intangibles”, blablabla.

by BobKnob on Jan 18, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Lombardi says a lot of things, including things that contradict the other things. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a pretty important conflict, if it exists.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, he does get knocked over super easy. But you know what they say in hockey, it’s not how hard you fall, it’s how fast you get up. He does pop up quick. Still, I’d classify getting manhandled so easily as being wimpy. He needs to grow vertically and horizontally imo.

by BobKnob on Jan 19, 2012 6:49 AM PST up reply actions  

despite their size, moller, roe (now gone) and vey are not wimpy. but, yeah, there’s some kind of disconnect, or there was.

Size doesn’t really have anything to do with toughness. Richards is actually pretty small and no one would every use the word wimpy when describing him.

by sstephen17 on Jan 19, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Holloway (6’ 200lb) now has 32 points in 38 games in the SEL. That translates to 25 points in the NHL. That would put him 4th on the team (tied with Dustin Brown).

by Robert_P. on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know why he always goes unnoticed. It’s too bad he signed in the SEL, I think he could have contributed to the big club this year. Hopefully he still wants to come back to L.A. and try to make this team next year.

by BobKnob on Jan 19, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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