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Kings-Canucks Game Thread: Jell-O Time

Los Angeles Kings at Vancouver Canucks, Jan 17, 2012 7:00 PM PST


LOS ANGELES, CA - DECEMBER 31:  Brad Richardson #15 of the Los Angeles Kings scores in the first period past goaltender Roberto Luongo #1 of the Vancouver Canucks during the NHL game at Staples Center on December 31, 2011 in Los Angeles, California. The Kings defeated the Canucks 4-1. (Photo by Victor Decolongon/Getty Images)


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by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

watching the vancouver feed in order to become extra mad and disgusted

by Robert_P. on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m gonna see if I can double fist the JFTC thread and twitter tonight. Wish my fingers luck.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

GO KINGS GO!!!!!

"It's not illegal. It's frowned upon, like masturbating on an airplane."-Alan Garner

by card_base on Jan 17, 2012 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

Hey Niesy!

Did you see? He’s wearing pumpkin!!!

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:12 PM PST reply actions  

Kesler went down awful easy/late there.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM PST reply actions  

Also looked liked missed holding call on Higgins.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

On Henrik or Daniel?

by BobKnob on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

so this confirms

we really can’t score a goal.

by duckyou on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM PST reply actions  

Luongo is just really playing well so far.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a top class keeper, but still.

Don’t see this many good chances in a game sometimes.

by duckyou on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

There it is….got it off quickly!

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

Niiice!

Pancake boy on the tip!

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

I'm Michael by the way

Lived my entire life in Oregon but lived in LA for a year for an Americorps program and finally found a hockey team to root for! GO KINGS!!

by duckyou on Jan 17, 2012 7:24 PM PST reply actions  

sounds good & welcome. I guess “duckyou” has to take on a negative meaning when we’re playing anaheim.

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome!

And thanks for deciding to do a good service for our country as a member of Americorps.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 8:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Oregon rocks!

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Screens and tips. That’ll be key to beating Lu tonight.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Not sure why my brother thinks it’s okay to blast music while I’m watching the Kings game.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

Ballard….holding Clifford….another non-call

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

Love Richards on the PK.

by defrim65 on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

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A lot of interference and holding by Ballard on his last three shifts…when is he call going to come?

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:41 PM PST reply actions  

Isn’t the Kings playing well, is it? It about the Canucks taking them lightly, right?

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Looked like he could have taken that to the middle.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope Bieksa is pissing blood between periods.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

great to see following the penner interview they have a commercial for Denny’s

"And in net, number 39, DAAAAAAN CLOOOOUTIER"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

by TradedForAPick on Jan 17, 2012 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Did Jimmy Fox really just bust out a Jai Alai reference on that Canucks goal?

Somebody’s been drinking too much red wine and watching Mad Men episodes on the road.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 8:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

haha, Fox has had some very off the wall commentary recently

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

News & Views

News: That blond girl in the FSW Kumho Tires commercial is ridiculously good looking.

Views: Does anyone really want to buy tires after watching that commercial? Or would you rather try skimboarding while being towed by a Ford Mustang on the beach instead?

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I don’t think I want to buy anything from a company called “Kumho”.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you complaining?

All commercials should look like that.

by Garrett79 on Jan 17, 2012 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

No Complaints here, G.

I think the underlying message of the tire/blond girl commercial is “Embrace the use of rubber(s).”

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 8:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Appreciate

I really appreciate how the RED ARROW which is disguised as a logo points at all the womens mouth … their luscious, luscious mouths

by kevin_ebel on Jan 17, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Kings are taking too long to get their point shots off and Vancouver stopped taking pucks up the boards and started moving pucks up the middle.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

Haha, Drew checking Sedin down like a sack of shit there was pretty funny.

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by Great Ice-Pectations on Jan 17, 2012 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

Old (Bad) Habits

Jonathan Quick needs to get his ass back in front of the net and stop straying from the crease. I get the feeling he is going to hand the Canucks a goal tonight the way he used to do his first couple of seasons with ridiculous frequency.

by Garrett79 on Jan 17, 2012 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

Great power move by Willy.

by defrim65 on Jan 17, 2012 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

That about the 10th time Richards lost pucks that way.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Ryan Kessler

New Rule…

When a Vancouver player skates into the path of an opposing player and interfere results a 2 minute penalty shall be assessed upon the opposing player and one opposition goal shall be annulled.

Should a dive or embellishment be executed by a Vancouver player a 2 minute penalty shall be assessed upon the opposing player who caused the dive.

Fucking whiner…go suck mouths with the twinkle brothers. Their Van Dykes are tapered to make their faces look likes assholes just for you, Ryan.

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

More interference by Ballard…when will they make the call?

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Jan 17, 2012 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

Interference on the Goal

Is that interference with the two man game that looked like a pick and roll? Or are you allowed to do that?

by Dr C on Jan 17, 2012 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Before the goal even happened I thought it looked interesting. Didn’t know the rule on it.

by Dr C on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Nuck rules

They do it = fine
You do it = Luongo drops like a fainting goat

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by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't normally complain about the officiating

but it has been terrible lately. That hooking call, from the mid-ice official, was just awful.

by JZarris on Jan 17, 2012 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

Agree completely.

I didn’t even have much of a problem with things in the Dallas fiasco last week, but shenanigans all around tonight even if it’s not as dramatic on the ice.

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

And to be clear, it has been league-wide as far as I’m concerned. Just brutal…the Oliver Stone in me thinks it has something to do with the downward trend in scoring this season.

by JZarris on Jan 17, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

What a deal for Vancouver to get booth for Mikael Samuelsson and Marco Sturm.

by defrim65 on Jan 17, 2012 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

The crazy thing is how awesome the Panthers have played this season.

Even after they traded away David John Wilkes Booth to the ’Nucks for nothing.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 9:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

True. Who’d have thought Tallon’s rebuild would go so well. Campbell, Versteeg, Fleischmann, and probably someone else that slips my mind. Tehy’ve all done well.

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Theodore. That’s who I forgot.

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget about them bringing back JovoCop.

But I hear what you’re saying. I watched the B’s-Cats game last night, and Florida looks great. Buy stock now in Mattel, Fisher-Price or whichever toy manufacturer makes the toy plastic rats they sell down there.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Awesome? They’re on pace for fewer points than the Kings.

by BobKnob on Jan 18, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Awesome.

Give them a viewing sometime. The Panthers played an excellent game against the Bruins this past Monday night. Florida is playing much better than people had projected their team would be.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 18, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

David Booth sucks

For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s almost as bad as Rick Nash.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

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For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on Jan 18, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn, Lou dropped like a rock when that puck hit him.

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

I think he was dropping before contact! I would have loved it if that had somehow snuck in.

4 of 6 points on this trip is good…I want 5!

by JZarris on Jan 17, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That was an unbelievable overtime

by JZarris on Jan 17, 2012 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

J Dub Step!

Someone trade him to me, seriously.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Loungo

Not very graceful in a shootout format.

by JZarris on Jan 17, 2012 9:44 PM PST reply actions  

Oh yeah!!

We beat ’em again!

by SCSF on Jan 17, 2012 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Heck ya. Get some Canucks.

by Dr C on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 PM PST reply actions  

Geeeeeezzzzz! I actually cringed when they flashed Richards name in the shootout. Glad it worked out.

by defrim65 on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 PM PST reply actions  

Great win

Dominant first period with a zillion odd man chances, responded well in the 2nd after the Nucks scored, and well… pretty bad 3rd but we held on…

Willie Mitchell was pretty bad today though…

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No man is an island. You can try though.

by Paul Udani on Jan 17, 2012 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

Also

Kesler is a B.

A big ol’ slutty keep-yer-shirt-on B.

It pains me as an American to say this

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by Niesy on Jan 17, 2012 10:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

great game out of JDub and Pencakes. Doughty is looking like the 7 million dollar guy lately also

"And in net, number 39, DAAAAAAN CLOOOOUTIER"
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

by TradedForAPick on Jan 18, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

It’s funny to read blog recaps that throw a serious hissy about Brown colliding with a Canuck for one Kings goal, when the Vancouver Sun also notes this:

Hansen, with help from a pick by Cody Hodgson on Kings defenceman Willie Mitchell, delivered a perfect backdoor pass to Booth.

If you’re making the Vancouver Sun appear fair and balanced, you might wanna reach for a paper bag.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

I thought Burrows changed direction after Brown did and Brown just stayed in his lane.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jan 18, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I thought. But the obvious conclusion is a travesty of justice.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

this can largely be attributed to the vancouver tv guys who were nearly in tears over this

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Between the broadcasts and the local media, I suppose it shouldn’t surprise me that fans get nutty.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Upon looking at the replays it appeared to be deliberate interference on Burrows’ part.

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by USHA#17 on Jan 18, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think so, Burrows was backing up and didn’t see Brown coming until the last second. If he knew Brown was coming earlier he probably wouldn’t have been run over.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Jan 18, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I mentioned this on Nucks Misconduct and they just about virtually bit my head off…ah, what a fan base.

by klink3115 on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that.

The Game Recap you called their attention to and the subsequent comments were about as hypocritical as someone can get. Pretty sad and myopic.

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Jan 18, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I confess, like Doughty ten times better now because I know he’s a burr under his saddle. :)

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooh, some rare Rich snark
The view from Vancouver could be brought to you courtesy of the handful of Canucks fans who were allowed to sit in the press box, behind/above the local beat writers, and cheer during the game. Interesting concept, and certainly a new one for me.

Oh Vancouver! You just always fucking deliver!

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting!

Kings success under Sutter not attribiutal to PDO progression to the mean (or ‘luck’ if you will).

This season:

Under Murray — Fen % = .507, PDO = 989

Post Murray — Fen % = .527, PDO = 983

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm, interesting. I know time on ice includes 4v4; but on BTN they show the PDO spiking up.

I am going to put the nifty chart in my next post.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

kings hit PDO valley uner sutter see game #34 v ANA in you link. Sutter will defintely benefit from PDO upswing but the fenwick numbers are eye popping.

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

You don’t have to tell me! It’s been very good. Not scary elite but great.

What I think people are missing is that they were turning that ship around before Sutter came.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

in “close” games the numbers are even more dramatic:

This season:

Under Murray — Fen % = .498, PDO = 997

Post Murray — Fen % = .529, PDO = 993

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

the Kings are going to win the division.

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

San Jose this season in close games:

Fen% = .514, PDO = 1001

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

They dug themselves a hole, and they will have to hope SJ effs up a good portion of their packed schedule. It’s possible, but it’ll be tight.

They really need at least that 4-5 spot this year. Two years running they’ve almost had it. Then Quick went in a tailspin in ’10, and Kopi of course was lost down the stretch.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad you said “Post Murray.” Everyone says “under Sutter” but they also count the transition games, a whole week before Sutter arrived (he’s that good!).

The dramatic jump comes right when Stevens takes over. Murray definitely had a dampening effect.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

For once the numbers support my observations. We weren’t just unlucky under Murray. We were never headed for (much of) an uptick with him like a few people here and elsewhere were suggesting.

by BobKnob on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Hm, no, I wouldn’t put it quite that way.

They were pretty unfortunate for a short stretch AS WELL AS not being an upper tier possession team. They were always average there overall, even if they struggled to come back from behind (50-49% of events when the score is close is middle of the pack). The underlying numbers suggested they weren’t great, but they weren’t that bad, either.

I have no doubt that the Kings getting off fewer shots, as well as Murray’s strategy to get shots off from the point, exacerbates the problem when you don’t get the bounces — I think that affected the Devils in a similar way last year too, and the Devils last year set a record for poor shooting luck.

But they were also not burying clear cut chances they did get. Frustration can start to feed on itself, but weird things happen in short stretches.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To put it another way, possession is always a good thing, but it doesn’t guarantee luck in the short term. There were teams who were far worse at possession, truly bottom 5 in the league, who benefited from tremendous luck early on (Minnesota Wild, come on down!). The Detroit Red Wings were in scary elite possession territory while suffering from such bad luck that their fans almost set themselves on fire because “their team must no longer have the hearts of a champion.” But there are also average possession teams with good and bad luck in spurts. There’s really no guarantee.

If you have a high PDO and great possession stats, though, you can at least feel secure that your success on the ice is not an illusion. Some of the absolute best dynasty teams have both, because there really is that much depth.

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by Niesy on Jan 18, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really think we were that snakebitten though. It’s not like we had a ton of opportunities that just didn’t go in, at least from what I saw. I can’t remember a game where we could say, oh we were just unlucky.

I think it was a product of our perimeter game. If you consistently take shots from the outside your shooting percentage is going to be lower. It’s not like this was going to change under Murray. We’ll never know for sure, but I’da bet my left nut our production wouldn’t have turned around under him.

by BobKnob on Jan 19, 2012 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I see your point. Like I said, I definitely think it exacerbated it.

But there have been absolutely terrible teams since the lockout that had much better shooting percentage than the Kings. They weren’t even getting random fluke bounces on the same level as, say, Columbus.

It was too extreme not to have some variance involved.

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by Niesy on Jan 19, 2012 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

a poor team can still suffer from bad luck.

by Robert_P. on Jan 19, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

the Kings under murray this season were playing like a mediocre team with bad luck. The bad luck exacerbated their mediocrity. My problem with Murray was that he kept claiming the Kings were getting “good looks” while not taking into account that the other team was getting about just as many “good looks” as the Kings were. The point is to out “good look” the other team.

by Robert_P. on Jan 19, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

omg yes on the good looks thing. I remember the COL game where we outshot them 32/16. The stats told a completely different story than the game. They were given outnumbered and high speed entries into the zone over and over and over and over and over.

Not that many good looks in those 32 shots for us.

by BobKnob on Jan 19, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but they’re getting good looks under Sutter, and are still a bit in their own heads. They need to break out of that. (Easier said than done)

And they were getting the same amount of looks under TM last year and scoring more goals. It just worked out that way.

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by Niesy on Jan 21, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

*edit not wholly attribiutal to PDO progression to the mean (or ‘luck’ if you will).

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Stevens tenure:

Overall:

Fen% = .574, PDO = 852

Close:

Fen% = 517, PDO = 865

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Sutter Tenure

Overall:

Fen% = .518, PDO = 1006
Close:

Fen% = .530, PDO = 1009

by Robert_P. on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

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