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The Power of Stupid: Ultimate Weapon or Doomsday Device?

ST PAUL, MN - JUNE 24:  (L-R) Assistant General Manager Jim Schoenfeld of the New York Rangers, General Manager Glen Sather of the New York Rangers and General Manager David Poile of the Nashville Predators share a laugh during day one of the 2011 NHL Entry Draft at Xcel Energy Center on June 24, 2011 in St Paul, Minnesota.  (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

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The Shit That Would Strike Shinola If The Sharks Landed Nash " Surly & Scribe's L.A. Kings Hockey Blog

[...] If you haven’t heard (Hammond just found out), San Jose is on Rick Nash’s top 5 list. So are the Kings. If that isn’t an invitation for a couple of guys with maximum testosterone to one up each other and land the prom queen [metaphor omitted for space]. [...] In the dark days, a certain Southern California team won the Cup. They did it after landing two of the best players in the league, namely Chris Pronger and Scott Niedermayer. Without those two, not going to happen.

Agreed. Except, I don't acknowledge that the Ducks ever won the cup. I didn't look. It didn't happen.

Almost every season since San Jose fired Dean Lombardi as their G.M., the Sharks have been a Cup contender and each season, they have disappointed. They haven’t even made it to the show. Time is running out. [...]

Or, to look at it another way, at some point, they will need a big excellent slightly dull replacement for big excellent slightly dull Joe Thornton. Either way, I can't imagine Dean Lombardi wants to see one team he helped build win the cup while his current team founders.

[Tim] Leiweke and AEG are not accustomed to failure. They are rich and for good reason. They see what they want. They get what they want. They make a lot of money with what they got. Not so much with the Kings though. Do I need to give you the list of big free agents Dean Lombardi has failed to land? How about the trade deadline acquisitions he never made? [...]

This makes me think: what big free agents have the Kings ever been able to land? The biggest name I can think of is Craig Conroy. Mathieu Schneider? I don't think Lombardi invented this particular problem.

While a logical and hateful side of me wants to see San Jose cut out their intestines for Nash and slowly bleed to their death in the coming years, I wonder if, at present day, Dean Lombardi tells Tim Leiweke he will try his best to land Nash and Leiweke responds, "your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen."

There's no question that the pressure is on for Lombardi. That's actually good. Probably, the pressure was always on, but now it's on much more publicly. My thought about Bobby's imagined Leiweke/Lombardi conversation is that it (not coincidentally) fairly clearly reflects the frustration of your average rabid fan, ignoring the fact that everyone knows -- especially Leiweke -- that Lombardi doesn't have to try very hard at all to land Rick Nash if he's willing to be stupid. Any GM anywhere can land anyone who's actually on the market, if they're willing to offer a moronic, short-sighted franchise-killing deal to score the quick fix.

Lombardi already brought in Mike Richards in what was considered a huge coup. That's as big a blockbuster deal as the Kings have been involved in since...Palffy and Smolinski for Olli Jokinen? Rob Blake and Steven Reinprecht for Adam Deadmarsh and Aaron Miller? The Richards deal is on a par with those.

Lombardi has, in fact, made several savvy deals in his time here: Ryan Smyth for Kyle Quincey and Tom Preissing; Justin Williams for Patrick O'Sullivan; Fredrik Modin for a 7th round pick if the Kings win the cup; Sean O'Donnell for nothing; Brent Sopel for the pick that became Wayne Simmonds that became half of Mike Richards; the aforementioned Richards deal. Black-marks would be Cloutier, Penner (probably), Sturm...and the cost of those was picks and a prospect and (in the case of Sturm) nothing.

I really don't think anyone wants Dean Lombardi to sell the farm for Rich Nash. If we lose any of Andrei Loktionov, Slava Voynov or Tyler Toffoli to make it happen, I will be very disappointed. I understand why Jonathan Bernier could get dealt, but that's a risky move considering how long it took the Kings to get to this happy place with their goaltending (several decades?). And it doesn't make a lot of sense to deal what little scoring you have, just to get slightly more scoring at a much steeper cost; so I would rule out any moves that include our current millionaire forwards. And who does that leave, really? Jack Johnson? Nash for Johnson, maybe that wouldn't suck. Maybe it would be great. Maybe it would be the dumbest thing Lombardi ever did. If the Kings were to swap a defenseman (where they are flush) for a forward (where they are lacking) I can see the logic in that. But it would be, by no means, a sure thing.

It's easy to criticize Dean Lombardi's (perhaps rigidly) conservative nature, or his (perhaps rigidly) long-term view. But I was a season-ticket holder during the Burger King jersey era. And I remember the 80s. How did that Ray Bourque guy turn out, anyway?

If I had to bet, I would say a big(-ish?) deal is coming. One thing's certain, though: as much as any one decision can represent a person's worldview, I expect what Lombardi does now to be a defining moment. I don't think we'll look back on February 2012 and say "why the hell did he do THAT?"

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How about the trade deadline acquisitions [Lombardi] never made?

I would like to see this list, actually.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Feb 17, 2012 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

Sturm gets a bad rap..

He was actually pretty good for the Kings. I once did some calculations (that I don’t remember) about points/60min (or something), and found him near the top of the list. The dumb thing wasn’t signing him, it was putting him on waivers expecting no one to snatch him up. I liked Marco as a King.

by Tyfighter77 on Feb 17, 2012 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

How did that Ray Bourque guy turn out, anyway?

Or how about this guy?

"We will come with our guns blazing, and we just blazed." - Tim Leiweke

by DodgerBlueBalls on Feb 17, 2012 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

Quick question for you, Quisp

You read my article of being critical of Lombardi and my desire that he land Nash? If so, you missed the premise completely. The article is what I imagine (with tongue firmly planted in cheek) Tim Leiweke wants and Dean Lombardi (if he wasn’t so Deanish Lombardish) wishes he could bring himself to do.

by Bobby Scribe on Feb 17, 2012 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

My post just uses yours as a leaping-off point.

My post is about the idea that “trying your best” to land Rick Nash (or any trade object) is not the same as “trying your best” to win a puck battle, or a game seven. In a closed system (puck battle, game) the ends almost always justify the means (e.g. "we won, so what if we played dirty?). In an open system (trading for Nash at deadline), the ends aren’t even necessarily on the calendar, and treating the current “game” (land Nash, or whoever) as an end unto itself is like winning the first period (or first shift, even) and forgetting the rest of the game.

by Quisp on Feb 17, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

Is that Rick Nash in a dress? How lovely.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

The Rock is a cool movie.

The West Coast is the Best Coast.

by RudyKelly on Feb 17, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Excuse ME, A-HOLE!

For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.

by Nut on Feb 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

10 minute major, spearing

Are Teemu Selanne and Melanie Griffith Twins?

by USHA#17 on Feb 17, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

HAHAHAHAHA

Holy shit I needed a laugh.

Dinglebarnin' It JftC

by Niesy on Feb 17, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

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